{"id":669057,"date":"2024-04-20T10:28:58","date_gmt":"2024-04-20T08:28:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/?p=669057"},"modified":"2024-04-20T10:28:58","modified_gmt":"2024-04-20T08:28:58","slug":"rama-kishte-frike-se-do-e-refuzonte-mark-marku-i-shkon-ne-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/2024\/04\/20\/rama-kishte-frike-se-do-e-refuzonte-mark-marku-i-shkon-ne-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Rama kishte frik\u00eb se do e refuzonte, Mark Marku i shkon n\u00eb podcast","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/rama-marku-podcas.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-669058\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/rama-marku-podcas.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"540\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/rama-marku-podcas.jpg 540w, https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/rama-marku-podcas-300x166.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 540px) 100vw, 540px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ish-deputeti i Partis\u00eb Demokratike dhe pedagogu i Fakultetit t\u00eb Gazetaris\u00eb n\u00eb Universitetin e Tiran\u00ebs Mark Marku ka qen\u00eb dit\u00ebn e sotme n\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim me kryeministrin Edi Rama n\u00eb podcastin e tij javor \u201cFlasim\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Rama tregoi se nuk priste q\u00eb Marku t\u2019i shkonte n\u00eb podcast p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb p\u00ebrplasjeve politike q\u00eb kan\u00eb pasur me nj\u00ebri tjetrin edhe n\u00ebp\u00ebr studio televizive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Kryeministri Rama i k\u00ebrkoi ndjes\u00eb Mark Markut p\u00ebr ironin\u00eb me t\u00eb cil\u00ebn p\u00ebrmendi emrin e tij gjat\u00eb fushat\u00ebs zgjedhore t\u00eb 2021, ku ky i fundit ishte kandidat n\u00eb Lezh\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201c<em>Si fillim dua t\u00eb k\u00ebrkoj ndjes\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb arsye q\u00eb nuk m\u00eb b\u00ebn krenar\u00eb. Ndjes\u00eb se n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment barrikadimeve gjat\u00eb fushat\u00ebs s\u00eb fundit n\u00eb mos gabohem ishe kandidat n\u00eb Lezh\u00eb dhe un\u00eb n\u00eb mitingun e Lezh\u00ebs ta thoja emrin Mark Marku por me nj\u00eb fjal\u00eb ironie q\u00eb nuk m\u00eb b\u00ebn krenar sot<\/em>\u201d, tha Rama.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"PodKasti FLASIM, \u201cKur djalli s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb ai q\u00eb duket\u201d\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/55DBKKKaZqk\" width=\"688\" height=\"387\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Intervista e plot\u00eb:\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Sot n\u00eb episodin e 13-t\u00eb sezonit t\u00eb 3-t\u00eb t\u00eb podcastit \u201cFlasim\u2019\u2019 kam nj\u00eb t\u00eb ftuar q\u00eb p\u00ebr hir t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebs e ftova, por nuk prisja q\u00eb do t\u00eb vinte ose m\u00eb sakt\u00eb, m\u00eb shum\u00eb isha i bindur q\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb vinte sesa do t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjej menj\u00ebher\u00eb, \u201cOk, do t\u00eb vij\u2019\u2019. Mark Marku.\u00a0 Takohemi pas relativisht nj\u00eb kohe t\u00eb gjat\u00eb dhe jeta na ka \u00e7uar n\u00eb udh\u00ebkryq p\u00ebrplasjesh me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin edhe n\u00eb debate televizive, por sot mesa duket distancimi \u2018\u2019higjienik\u2019\u2019 nga politika dhe p\u00ebrq\u00ebndrimi n\u00eb profesion edhe n\u00eb pasionin e m\u00ebsimdh\u00ebnies, plus edhe n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsin\u00eb e drejtimit t\u00eb nj\u00eb departamenti t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm t\u00eb universitetit ton\u00eb, e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb leht\u00eb. Shum\u00eb faleminderit p\u00ebr pranimin e k\u00ebsaj ftese edhe me shum\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi, jam un\u00eb tani q\u00eb do t\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqem ta p\u00ebrballoj denj\u00ebsisht k\u00ebt\u00eb sprov\u00eb, po p\u00ebr t\u00eb hyr\u00eb pak \u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Faleminderit p\u00ebr ftes\u00ebn dhe that\u00eb q\u00eb n\u00eb kushte t\u00eb tjera s\u2019do kisha pranuar etj. Do kisha pranuar dhe n\u00eb kushte t\u00eb tjera.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Jo n\u00eb kushte t\u00eb tjera, thash\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebto kushte nuk mendova se do kisha p\u00ebrgjigje pozitive. Aq m\u00eb keq me nj\u00eb fjal\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Ah, ok. E pranova me k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi, absolutisht asnj\u00eb hezitim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Po nuk mendon q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe \u00e7lirimi nga angazhimi i p\u00ebrditsh\u00ebm politik q\u00eb ta ka b\u00ebr\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb leht\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Po, po them un\u00eb mendoj \u00e7far\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb dhe \u00e7far\u00eb s\u2019b\u00ebjn\u00eb, than\u00eb X apo Y. Thash\u00eb, edhe n\u00eb kushte t\u00eb tjera patjet\u00ebr q\u00eb do vija sepse mendoj q\u00eb debati, dialogu me kund\u00ebrshtar\u00eb, edhe nw marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet normale jan\u00eb pjes\u00eb e nj\u00eb dinamike q\u00eb jan\u00eb pjes\u00eb e jet\u00ebs dhe edhe nga pik\u00ebpamja,po themi, e komunikimit politik apo filozofis\u00eb politike, ne e \u2018\u2019luftojm\u00eb\u2019\u2019 tjetrin normalisht, n\u00eb at\u00eb sipas nj\u00eb logjike politike t\u00eb caktuar por dhe shpeshher\u00eb harrojm\u00eb q\u00eb ekzistenca e tjetrit \u00ebsht\u00eb kusht p\u00ebr ekzistenc\u00ebn ton\u00eb sepse s\u2019mund t\u00eb jesh i djatht\u00eb n\u00ebse nuk ka t\u00eb majt\u00eb; s\u2019mund t\u00eb jesh i moderuar n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse s\u2019ka t\u00eb qendr\u00ebs, n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse s\u2019ka t\u00eb djatht\u00eb pak m\u00eb ekstrem\u00eb dhe t\u00eb majt\u00eb pak m\u00eb ekstrem\u00eb etj, k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb kuptim si vet\u00ebdije tek un\u00eb ekziston t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn, q\u00eb tjetri ok, ti lufton me tjetrin, p\u00ebrballesh por \u00ebsht\u00eb kusht q\u00eb t\u00eb egzistosh p\u00ebrndryshe as identiteti yt nuk ekziston.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Patjete\u00ebr, k\u00ebshtu duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb dhe k\u00ebshtu do ishte mir\u00eb t\u00eb ishte por meq\u00eb un\u00eb t\u00eb folur\u00ebn k\u00ebtu me \u2018\u2019ti\u2019\u2019 k\u00ebtu e kam m\u00eb shum\u00eb si respekt, m\u00eb shum\u00eb sesa distancimi me \u2018\u2019ju\u2019\u2019,po meq\u00eb na fute n\u00eb t\u00eb thella direkt, un\u00eb prap\u00eb, po t\u00ebrhiqem p\u00ebr nj\u00eb moment sepse do kisha d\u00ebshir\u00eb t\u00eb t\u00eb pyesja edhe p\u00ebr ca gj\u00ebra q\u00eb nuk kam pasur mund\u00ebsi t\u2019i di dhe q\u00eb p\u00ebrgjth\u00ebsisht \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb t\u00eb ndahen edhe k\u00ebtu sepse jemi bashk\u00eb por s\u2019jemi vet\u00ebm. Si,nga ka ardhur kjo prirja p\u00ebr t\u2019u marr\u00eb me gazetarin\u00eb, prirja p\u00ebr t\u2019u marr\u00eb me fjal\u00ebn? Ka ndonj\u00eb lidhje me familjen? \u00c7far\u00eb kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb prind\u00ebrit n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb drejtim? Kan\u00eb ndikuar a s\u2019kan\u00eb ndikuar, kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqur q\u00eb i hyre k\u00ebsaj rruge apo donin t\u00eb merreshe me ndonj\u00eb gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0 Prind\u00ebrit kan\u00eb ndikuar vet\u00ebm n\u00eb nj\u00eb drejtim q\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb\u2026ishin pun\u00ebtor\u00eb, nuk jetojn\u00eb sot m\u00eb, mendoj duke i analizuar si prind\u00ebr shum\u00eb t\u00eb ndersh\u00ebm dhe gj\u00ebja e vetmja q\u00eb inkurajonin, ishte q\u00eb \u2018\u2019m\u00ebsoni\u2019\u2019. M\u00ebsoni sepse \u00ebsht\u00eb e vetmja gj\u00eb q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebni.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Sa f\u00ebmij\u00eb keni qen\u00eb ju?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> 5, tre motra dhe 2 v\u00ebllez\u00ebr. Un\u00eb jam m\u00eb i vogli. V\u00ebllai i madh para 5 vjet\u00ebve nd\u00ebrroi jet\u00eb dhe jemi 4 aktualisht. Dhe normalisht mendoni vet\u00ebm sesa v\u00ebshtir\u00eb ishte p\u00ebr nj\u00eb familje q\u00eb punonin, nuk kishte.. Si t\u00eb gjith\u00eb n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit, nuk ishte se ishin m\u00eb pak t\u00eb privilegjuar apo\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Por n\u00eb kushte t\u00eb v\u00ebshtira, n\u00eb kushte gati heroike q\u00eb simulonin k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb, q\u00eb thonin p\u00ebr shembull\u00a0 qysh f\u00ebmij\u00eb, im at\u00eb n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb i thoja q\u00eb kam marr\u00eb 10 n\u00eb\u00a0 shkoll\u00eb, t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen m\u00eb jepte ca lek\u00eb dhe m\u00eb thoshte, \u2018\u2019shko bli di\u00e7ka\u2019\u2019.\u00a0 Si tip dhurate. Nj\u00eb simulim i p\u00ebrhersh\u00ebm. Pasioni p\u00ebr let\u00ebrsin\u00eb, pa diskutim dhe e\u00a0 kam par\u00eb let\u00ebrsin\u00eb, po themi, si nj\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb dyt\u00eb n\u00eb kuptimin si ..<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Lexoja shum\u00eb dhe me shum\u00eb pasion dhe nga kjo pastaj kam kaluar tek gazetaria por n\u00eb rrethana q\u00eb ju i njihni shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, n\u00eb \u201990. Ka qen\u00eb edhe pak zgjedhje pragmatiste.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> E fillove nj\u00ebher\u00eb me\u2026 do flasim nj\u00eb her\u00eb me \u2018\u2019ti\u2019\u2019, n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse do flasim me \u2018\u2019ju\u2019\u2019, un\u00eb do t\u00eb p\u00ebrgjigjem me \u2018\u2019ju\u2019\u2019<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Jo, jo, me \u2018\u2019ti\u2019\u2019. At\u00ebher\u00eb do flas edhe un\u00eb me \u2018\u2019ti\u2019\u2019.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: E fillove me \u201cZ\u00ebrin e Rinis\u00eb\u201d n\u00ebse s\u2019gabohem qysh n\u00eb \u201990, at\u00ebher\u00eb kur n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb Remziu p\u00ebrpiqej q\u00eb t\u2019i hapte pak ato kanate t\u00eb \u2018\u2019Z\u00ebrit t\u00eb Rinis\u00eb\u2019\u2019, edhe keni qen\u00eb n\u00eb fakt grup q\u00eb ishit si t\u00eb thuash, n\u00eb at\u00eb rreth q\u00eb vinte nga e nj\u00ebjta zon\u00eb edhe ..<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Ishim nj\u00eb grup poet\u00ebsh t\u00eb rinj t\u00eb cil\u00ebv\u00eb n\u00eb fakt iu hap rruga nga nj\u00eb grup poet\u00ebsh q\u00eb gjith\u00ebsesi t\u00eb rinj ishin por q\u00eb vinin,kishin nj\u00eb frym\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, e njihnin mir\u00eb si atmosfer\u00eb dhe un\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb aksidentale kam botuar n\u00eb fakt poezit\u00eb e para, nj\u00eb cik\u00ebl me poezi q\u00eb pastaj fitoi edhe \u00e7mim komb\u00ebtar etj. Nj\u00eb mik i imi, un\u00eb nuk e kisha k\u00ebt\u00eb manin\u00eb e botimit , thjesht shkruaja p\u00ebr qejfin tim dhe vazhdoj ta b\u00ebj nj\u00eb gj\u00eb t\u00eb till\u00eb dhe nj\u00eb mik i imi ia dha nj\u00eb poeti, Ndoc Papleka, poezit\u00eb e mia dhe ai pa dijenin\u00eb time i \u00e7oi tek Remzi Lani q\u00eb ishte\u00a0 kryeredaktor i \u201cZ\u00ebrit t\u00eb Rinis\u00eb\u2019\u2019 dhe u botua cikli.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Si ishte ai impakti kur i pe t\u00eb botuara?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> U ndjeva shum\u00eb mir\u00eb sepse normalisht edhe pati.. I ndjeri Teodor Keko shkruajti direkt tek gazeta \u201cDrita\u2019\u2019 p\u00ebr poezit\u00eb e mia, pastaj Rudolf Marku, pastaj\u2026.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr poezit\u00eb e mia, por p\u00ebr Rudian Zekthin, p\u00ebr Ervin Hatibin, pra ishte nj\u00eb brez, un\u00eb isha pak m\u00eb i madh se sa ata n\u00eb mosh\u00eb por gjth\u00ebsesi\u00a0 n\u00eb kuptimin e vard\u00ebs (vazhd\u00ebs) kulturor ishte pak a shum\u00eb,ishim nj\u00eb rreth dhe \u2026 se \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe pak paradoksi i nj\u00eb vendi t\u00eb vog\u00ebl dhe po themi, i provinc\u00ebs se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb metropol, q\u00eb b\u00ebhesh i njohur shpejt dhe pastaj, problemi \u00ebsht\u00eb duhet t\u00eb mendosh, t\u00eb fillosh t\u00eb mendoshta dyshosh at\u00eb gj\u00eb. Un\u00eb e kisha k\u00ebt\u00eb, thosha \u2018\u2019ok, ne po b\u00ebhemi poet\u00eb, por n\u00eb fakt a jemi n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb? A \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo let\u00ebrsia\u2019\u2019? I kisha ato dilemat e mia dhe pastaj krijuam nj\u00eb gazet\u00eb. N\u00eb \u201991 kemi krijuar nj\u00eb gazet\u00ebn \u2018\u2019E p\u00ebrshtatshme\u2019\u2019 q\u00eb ishte gazet\u00eb letrare, q\u00eb ishte ngjarje n\u00eb kuptimin.. se ishte e ndryshme nga, po themi, gj\u00ebja tradicionale n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Mundoheshim t\u00eb b\u00ebnim at\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb praktikisht e kishin b\u00ebr\u00eb, po themi, kultura evropiane n\u00eb fundin e shek XIX.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Kishit edhe nj\u00eb 7 n\u00eb titull n\u00eb mos gaboj?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Po,po. E kemi nxjerr\u00eb tek sht\u00ebpia e Ervin Hatibit dhe m\u00eb von\u00eb kalova tek \u2018\u2019Z\u00ebri i Rinis\u00eb\u2019\u2019 pastaj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Tani t\u00eb detyrohem nj\u00eb ndjes\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb arsye q\u00eb nuk m\u00eb b\u00ebn krenar sot dhe aq m\u00eb tep\u00ebr q\u00eb m\u00eb ke nderuar me pranin\u00eb k\u00ebtu, por ta b\u00ebj ndjes\u00ebn p\u00ebrpara se t\u00eb b\u00ebj pyetjen: N\u00eb nj\u00eb moment t\u00eb barrikadimeve gjat\u00eb fushat\u00ebs s\u00eb fundit, mos gabohem, ti ishe kandidat n\u00eb Lezh\u00eb dhe un\u00eb n\u00eb mitingun e Lezh\u00ebs ta thoja emrin Mark Marku por me nj\u00ebfar\u00eb ironie q\u00eb nuk m\u00eb b\u00ebn krenar sot por nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb kam d\u00ebshir\u00eb t\u00eb t\u00eb pyes p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb, p\u00ebr emrin Mark Marku?!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: N\u00eb Mirdit\u00eb zakonisht dikush merr emrin e gjyshit. Gjyshi ka pasur emrin Mark dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe nj\u00eb problem q\u00eb shum\u00eb mirditor\u00eb por edhe shum\u00eb shqiptar\u00eb kan\u00eb n\u00eb dokumentacion, q\u00eb nuk mbahet nj\u00eb mbiem\u00ebr stab\u00ebl por mbiemri shkon duke u ndryshuar, p\u00ebr shembull Mark Marku e jo Mark Pjet\u00ebr Prenga si\u00e7 e kishte pasur im at\u00eb dhe po t\u00eb shkoje k\u00ebshtu n\u00eb linj\u00eb t\u00eb vazhdueshme, po t\u00eb respektohej e nj\u00ebjta tradit\u00eb, i bie q\u00eb vazhdimisht ti t\u00eb jesh p\u00ebrs\u00ebritje e mbiemrit t\u00eb gjyshit. Ta kesh si mbiem\u00ebr dhe kur kam ardhur n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb, po themi pasi kisha botuar ciklin me poezi nj\u00eb mik im m\u00eb tha k\u00ebshtu tha Mark Marku tha, ti qenka i ri tha, un\u00eb sa kisha mbaru gjimnazin. Un\u00eb t\u00eb mendoja nj\u00eb 50 vje\u00e7, 60, k\u00ebshtu edhe kishte edhe nj\u00eb p\u00ebrfytyrim epik q\u00eb un\u00eb s\u2019ia plot\u00ebsoja fare, ishte zhg\u00ebnjimi total n\u00eb kuptimin dhe m\u00eb tha; Pse nuk e nd\u00ebrron emrin? Thash\u00eb po emri pse t\u00eb nd\u00ebrroj thash\u00eb se nuk e kuptoj. \u2013 Po jo, tha se me k\u00ebt\u00eb em\u00ebr, tha do paragjykohesh e tjer\u00eb e tjer\u00eb, emrin s\u2019kam pse ta nd\u00ebrroj, thashe nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se m\u00eb p\u00eblqen, as s\u2019m\u00eb p\u00eblqen se nuk ka lidhje me vet\u00eb personin emri, aq m\u00eb tep\u00ebr kur s\u2019e v\u00eb vete emrin e vet, por thash\u00eb nuk mendoj thash\u00eb, pastaj thash\u00eb m\u00eb duket normal thash\u00eb jam m\u00ebsuar me at\u00eb, dhe do m\u00eb duket sikur s\u2019jam un\u00eb ai personi n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb do ta th\u00ebrrasin.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Interesant, un\u00eb nuk e dija k\u00ebt\u00eb t\u00eb transformimin t\u00eb emrit t\u00eb gjyshit, gjithmon\u00eb mbiem\u00ebr.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Mark<\/strong>:\u2026. Gjithmon\u00eb shkon\u00a0\u00a0 k\u00ebshtu dhe problemi ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb gjendje civile, sepse gjendja civile regjistronte sipas parimit nj\u00eb mbiemri, por x p\u00ebr nj\u00eb familje, apo p\u00ebr trungun familjar. Kurse n\u00eb dokumente shkollor\u00eb ndryshonte dhe mua m\u00eb ndodhi kur shkova n\u00eb Franc\u00eb p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb p\u00ebr studime, nuk e evidentuan at\u00eb ndryshimin, sepse kisha dy gabime, ishte pasaporta, ishte me mbiem\u00ebr tjet\u00ebr, dokumentet shkollor\u00eb, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb me Mark Marku dhe kisha edhe nj\u00eb gabim n\u00eb muajin n\u00eb dit\u00eblindjes 25\/06\u00a0 \u2013 26\/05, n\u00eb Franc\u00eb nuk e kap\u00ebn. Kur shkova pastaj n\u00eb Itali, p\u00ebr n\u00eb Rom\u00eb p\u00ebr studime b\u00ebra regjistrimin dhe krye sekretarja n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb shkova p\u00ebr t\u00eb marr\u00eb di\u00e7ka tha: Hajde, hajde pak k\u00ebtu, se ke nj\u00eb problem ti. \u2013 \u00c7far\u00eb problemi kam i thash\u00eb? \u2013 Tha, po ty nuk t\u00eb p\u00ebrputhet. Nuk t\u00eb p\u00ebrputhen dokumentat shkollore me emrin dhe mbiemrin e dokumentat e shkoll\u00ebs, deftesat e gjitha, diplomat me pasaport\u00ebn, k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb si do ja b\u00ebsh, se \u00ebsht\u00eb problem i madh. Plus q\u00eb kishte kap edhe dallimin n\u00eb dit\u00eblindje.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">-Thash\u00eb un\u00eb e di.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">-Si e di tha. Dhe ke vazhdar tha deri tashi tha, deri n\u00eb t\u00eb pik\u00eb k\u00ebshtu?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">-Po i thash\u00eb un\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Tha po duhet ta zgjidh\u00ebsh, e thash\u00eb po duhet ta zgjidh\u00ebsh, si do t\u00eb zgjidhesh, do t\u00eb shkoj n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri e thash\u00eb un\u00eb do t\u00eb ndryshoj\u00eb, do t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb regjistrim n\u00eb gjendje civile ai akti q\u00eb b\u00ebsh.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">-Po \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, tha kjo do pes\u00eb vjet minimumi, shteti jon\u00eb funksionon shum\u00eb mir\u00eb i thash\u00eb dhe e zgjidh shpejt dhe k\u00ebshtu e zgjidha.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Pastaj m\u00eb pas u angazhove m\u00eb shum\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb e m\u00eb shum\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Mark:<\/strong> M\u00eb fal, kjo m\u00eb ka krijuar nj\u00eb problem nj\u00eb her\u00eb. Ish nj\u00eb person n\u00eb k\u00ebrkim me emrin Mark Pjeter Marku, i cili kishte b\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb krim, ishte nga Mir\u00ebdita, kishte b\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb krim n\u00eb \u201897 atje n\u00eb rrug\u00ebn q\u00eb shkonte p\u00ebr Fush\u00eb\u00a0 Arr\u00ebz, ai ishte n\u00eb k\u00ebrkim. Mua m\u00eb thonin ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb kur kaloja n\u00eb kur kaloja n\u00ebp\u00ebr n\u00ebp\u00ebr dogan\u00eb, n\u00ebp\u00ebr k\u00ebshtu, \u2013 Je k\u00ebrkim! Por, ngaq\u00eb m\u00eb njihni nuk m\u00eb pengonin.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Edhe un\u00eb b\u00ebja shaka; \u2013 Kush m\u00eb k\u00ebrkon edhe n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment nj\u00eb police q\u00eb nuk njihte n\u00eb portin e Durr\u00ebsit, po t\u00eb kthehesha nga Bari n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, tha o tha ti qenka n\u00eb k\u00ebrkim, ti je n\u00eb k\u00ebrkim tha<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Thash\u00eb kush m\u00eb k\u00ebrkon? I Thash\u00eb un\u00eb me shaka. \u2013 O tha edhe kriminel\u00eb, tha edhe b\u00ebn dhe humor dhe lajm\u00ebronte n\u00eb\u00a0 lajm\u00ebronte aty n\u00eb radio q\u00eb kemi kap at\u00eb kriminelin e shum\u00ebk\u00ebrkuar e tjer\u00eb, erdhi shefi i kufirit aty dhe n\u00eb pa njofti i tha hajde pak hajde k\u00ebtu ta shpjegojm\u00eb, \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo. Aty e mora seriozisht un\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb person k\u00ebrkim, pastaj hyra se duhej t\u00eb b\u00ebja sqarim, se kisha hall se do t\u00eb ndalonin n\u00eb ndonj\u00eb aeroport nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar, se k\u00ebtu nuk kishte problem dhe m\u00eb tha duke par\u00eb personat q\u00eb kishin kaluar n\u00eb TIMS at\u00eb vit ishin 108 vet\u00eb me emrin Mark, me emrin e bab\u00ebs Pjet\u00ebr.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> T\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> T\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm, q\u00eb kishin kaluar n\u00eb sistemin TIMS, jo\u00a0 n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb kjo ka t\u00eb mir\u00ebn dhe t\u00eb keqen, se je shum\u00eb i dublur \u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>:\u00a0 B\u00ebn nj\u00ebri nj\u00eb krim dhe pastaj jan\u00eb 107 t\u00eb tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb mund t\u00eb kapem. Po thosha q\u00eb pastaj ke kaluar n\u00eb disa gj\u00ebra, po n\u00ebse duke u nis tashti se mund t\u00eb ti p\u00ebrmend se p\u00ebr vete, ti i ke akoma disa gri, un\u00eb s\u2019kam fare, i kam t\u00eb bardh\u00eb edhe t\u00eb gjitha, por duk u nis nga thijat\u00a0 mendoj q\u00eb mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet pyetja q\u00eb\u2026\u00c7far\u00eb kujton ose \u00e7far\u00eb do t\u00eb thoshe n\u00ebse do t\u00eb pyesja p\u00ebr nj\u00eb moment q\u00eb ose nj\u00eb segment t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebsaj jete intensive q\u00eb e kujton me k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi dhe \u00e7far\u00eb kujton ose nuk do t\u00eb doje t\u00eb kujtoje?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Momente t\u00eb mira, un\u00eb do ta quaj momentin me t\u00eb mir\u00eb, lindjen e vajz\u00ebs q\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se e kujtoj, po themi me detaje se si gjith\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt q\u00eb kur lind gruaja rri n\u00eb kafe dhe aty si rrotull maternitetit, po gjithsesi duke mos, nuk je i pranish\u00ebm, por si moment mendoj q\u00eb m\u00eb ka ndryshuar shum\u00eb jet\u00ebn. Nganj\u00ebher\u00eb b\u00ebj shaka them un\u00eb qysh kur m\u00eb ka lind\u00eb vajza, e kam ul shpejt\u00ebsin\u00eb me tridhjet\u00eb kilometra n\u00eb rrug\u00eb, n\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb direkt lind ajo p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsia q\u00eb prit, se ti, ok, mund t\u00eb aventurosh me veten, por ke, ke dik\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb mbrojtur? Si moment po them nj\u00eb nga momentet. Nj\u00eb moment tjet\u00ebr mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb shum\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb fantastike, por e kisha m\u00eb shum\u00eb n\u00eb aspektin e rrug\u00ebtimit profesional?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Rrug\u00ebtimit profesional, mendoj q\u00eb gj\u00ebja q\u00eb e kam mbrojtja e doktoratur\u00ebs n\u00eb Universitetin Paris Dy, n\u00eb Franc\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Pse? Sepse ishte pun\u00eb relativisht e lodhshme, shum\u00eb voluminoze, sepse ata k\u00ebrkonin shum\u00eb. Ballafaqimi me jurin\u00eb, fakti q\u00eb un\u00eb do ta mbroja, isha i huaj, fr\u00ebngjisht normalisht, sado po. Kjo po \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe mbasi isha lodh aq shum\u00eb, sa q\u00eb dit\u00ebn q\u00eb e mbrojta, t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen ishte nj\u00eb dit\u00eb shum\u00eb pezull n\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb nuk e dija realisht se\u00a0 \u00e7far\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebja.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Po nj\u00eb moment t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb q\u00eb ke pasur n\u00eb rrug\u00ebtimin profesional?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Moment i v\u00ebshtir\u00eb p\u00ebr mua kur mendova q\u00eb gjith\u00e7ka u nd\u00ebrpre, kur m\u00eb mor\u00ebn ushtar\u00eb. Un\u00eb kisha mbaruar gjimnazin dhe prisja q\u00eb t\u00eb shkoja n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, por nuk doli shkolla.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> K\u00ebto historit\u00eb e biografive apo?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Pak a shum\u00eb. M\u00eb mor\u00ebn papritur ushtar\u00eb, nuk e dija.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">M\u00eb \u00e7uan, \u00e7onin thirrje at\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb shkoj\u00eb paraqitesh n\u00eb deg\u00ebn ushtarake, shkova un\u00eb as e kisha iden\u00eb, un\u00eb nuk e, nuk e mendoja.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Nuk e prisje?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Jo! M\u00eb mor\u00ebn, m\u00eb than\u00eb, t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen do t\u00eb vish k\u00ebtu, \u2013 thash\u00eb nuk vij, sepse un\u00eb pres q\u00eb t\u00eb dali shkolla. -Po nuk erdhe, do t\u00eb vijm\u00eb t\u00eb marrim n\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb me makin\u00eb ushtarake. Shkova u thash\u00eb njer\u00ebzve t\u00eb mi dhe shkova ushtar\u00eb dhe aty nuk ishte problemi i v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsive. Okej, ushtria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb lloj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: E kalove at\u00eb qethjen zero.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Po, po, qethja pa diskutim, por problemi ishte, ushtria p\u00ebr mua ishte nj\u00eb lloj, k\u00ebshtu mendo po mendoja q\u00eb OK, s\u2019ka m\u00eb shpres\u00eb p\u00ebr at\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb mendoja un\u00eb, pra si\u00e7 \u00ebnd\u00ebrron gjith\u00eb. Njeriu mendon do b\u00ebhem k\u00ebshtu, do b\u00ebhem k\u00ebshtu, do b\u00ebj k\u00ebt\u00eb do b\u00ebj at\u00eb, do b\u00ebj. N\u00eb nj\u00eb moment t\u00eb gjitha u fshin\u00eb, dhe nj\u00eb muaj ushtar\u00eb, nuk jam natyr\u00eb q\u00eb bie n\u00eb depresion ose q\u00eb e humb fillin n\u00eb situata k\u00ebshtu, por, m\u00eb dukesh vetja si i burgos. Praktikisht, nuk e di se kam provuar t\u00eb jem i burgos, po nj\u00eb ndjenj\u00eb e k\u00ebsaj natyre. Pastaj e kalova, fillova t\u00eb lexoj<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> E b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb plot\u00eb ushtrin\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku: <\/strong>Dy vjet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Ku?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Dy vjet, n\u00eb vitin e par\u00eb n\u00eb Kryevidh t\u00eb Kavaj\u00ebs dhe vitin e dyt\u00eb n\u00eb Kavaj\u00eb, ishin ca brigada aty.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> E pastaj, pastaj hyre n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Pastaj hyra n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, u liberalizua\u00a0 pak ajo periudha q\u00eb ishte k\u00ebshtu dhe fillova pun\u00eb m\u00ebsues, kisha shum\u00eb miq q\u00eb m\u00eb ndihmonin q\u00eb donin q\u00eb edhe ca profesor\u00eb t\u00eb mi q\u00eb kisha marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie pak specifike, ata nd\u00ebrhynin q\u00eb t\u00eb shkoja, q\u00eb t\u00eb filloj direkt m\u00ebsues, pastaj nd\u00ebrhynin q\u00eb m\u00eb dilte shkolla. Kishin nj\u00eb lloj p\u00ebrkujdesje, pak t\u00eb ekzagjeruar n\u00eb kuptimin p\u00ebrtej lidhjeve, por q\u00eb donin ta b\u00ebnin. Dhe pastaj 1990 kam ardhur n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb. Kam punuar edhe dy vjet n\u00eb m\u00ebsues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Para se t\u00eb vije?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Para se t\u00eb vija, por ka qen\u00eb periudha, mendoj, ndoshta dhe ishte edhe e vetmja m\u00ebnyr\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebrballuar realitetin, leximi intensiv, ose s\u2019kisha \u00e7far\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebje tjet\u00ebr praktikisht.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Por mbase, mbase kur jeton, k\u00ebto gj\u00ebra gjat\u00eb t\u00eb jetuarit nuk jan\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebndshme p\u00ebr ta th\u00ebn\u00eb k\u00ebshtu letsh\u00ebm po mbase,\u00a0 m\u00eb mbrapa jan\u00eb eksperienca q\u00eb thua \u2013 Mbasi e kalon thua, m\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb e kalova, sepse di\u00e7ka plus kam n\u00eb muskulatur\u00ebn mendore. Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb, nj\u00eb gj\u00eb q\u00eb jam shum\u00eb kurioz ta di, duke e shfryt\u00ebzuar edhe at\u00eb virtytin t\u00ebnd q\u00eb i thuaj gj\u00ebrat si\u00e7 i mendon. Ti e ke par\u00eb Fakultetin e Gazetaris\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb evolucion shum\u00eb t\u00eb gjat\u00eb edhe si student, edhe si pedagog edhe si drejtues, n\u00ebse b\u00ebn nj\u00eb revist\u00eb t\u00eb shpejt\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebtyre viteve dhe vendos nj\u00eb grafik ngjitjesh-uljesh, ngjitjesh-uljesh. Ku do ta vendosje sot n\u00eb raport me koh\u00ebn, po themi, kur pavar\u00ebsisht korniz\u00ebs kishte tjet\u00ebr lloj serioziteti, tjet\u00ebr lloj disipline.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> N\u00eb raport me t\u00eb shkuar\u00ebn?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> N\u00eb raport me gjith\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rrug\u00ebtim, se e ke pa nga k\u00ebnde t\u00eb ndryshme, e ke pa nga posht\u00eb, e ke pa nga lart.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Departamenti i Gazetaris\u00eb ka pas nj\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebr universitetet evropiane, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e mir\u00eb. Pra, ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb departament i ri, gj\u00eb q\u00eb normalisht si departament i ri ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb skic\u00eb, po themi pak, shum\u00eb larg qenit nj\u00eb departament.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Kur \u00ebsht\u00eb hapur ajo dera?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> N\u00eb \u201893. Un\u00eb kam filluar, jam nd\u00ebr pedagog\u00ebt e par\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Po m\u00eb par\u00eb s\u2019kishte gazetari?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Jo, nuk ka pas ka qen\u00eb vet\u00ebm ka qen\u00eb te Fakulteti i Filozofis\u00eb, ka qen\u00eb si gjysm\u00eb departament, po themi n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e komunizmit, po e ke parasysh \u00e7far\u00eb gazetarie n\u00eb kuptimin..<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Propagand\u00eb!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Po ka pas gazetar, pedagog\u00eb e etj, etj q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ka qen\u00eb si b\u00ebrtham\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong> Po. Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb u krijua si departament i ri mendimin e amerikan\u00ebve, mendimin e Sorosit\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Me ndihm\u00eb e amerikan\u00ebve, me ndihm\u00ebn e Sorosit q\u00eb thuhet, me komplotin<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Ke qen\u00eb dhe ti pjes\u00eb e komplotit?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> U b\u00eb nj\u00eb komplot nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtar q\u00eb t\u00eb krijohej dhe departamenti aty dhe me lektor\u00eb kryesisht t\u00eb huaj, qe vinin gazetar\u00eb amerikan\u00eb q\u00eb vinin k\u00ebtu qe jepnin m\u00ebsim dhe fillimisht u konceptua si tip shkolle, trajnimi m\u00eb shum\u00eb sesa nj\u00ebsi universiteti, nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb pas nj\u00eb far\u00eb periudhe duke u plot\u00ebsuar edhe duke u stabilizuar se nuk po thellohem shum\u00eb, por p\u00ebr thelbin<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Problemi i shkollave t\u00eb gazetaris\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb duke qen\u00eb shkolla mes di\u00e7kaja praktike, por jo vet\u00ebm praktike problemin e ka kush jep m\u00ebsim aty. Duhet t\u00eb japin gazetar\u00eb, se ideja do jap\u00eb m\u00ebsim dikush q\u00eb s\u2019ka lidhje me gazetarin\u00eb, por shpesh her\u00eb gazetar\u00ebt nuk kan\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn e m\u00ebsimdh\u00ebnies dhe mbi t\u00eb gjitha nuk kan\u00eb at\u00eb dijen profesionale, pra i japin makin\u00ebs, por nuk njohin makin\u00ebn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> E qart\u00eb, e qart\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Dhe problemi ka qen\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjetur k\u00ebt\u00eb ekulib\u00ebr, pra p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjetur modelin e atij q\u00eb jep m\u00ebsim aty dhe p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsisht t\u00eb gjith\u00eb pedagog\u00ebt, nga po themi un\u00eb dhe t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt pastaj, jemi pedagog\u00eb q\u00eb kemi nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb n\u00eb gazetari, q\u00eb i vazhdojm\u00eb lidhjet prap me mediat n\u00eb forma t\u00eb ndryshme por q\u00eb kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb shkollimin profesional dhe pjesa m\u00eb e madhe 90% e pedagog\u00ebve t\u00eb departamentit ton\u00eb i kan\u00eb mbaruar studimet jasht\u00eb. Kan\u00eb nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb ose n\u00eb bachelor, ose n\u00eb master ose n\u00eb doktoratur\u00eb. M\u00eb von\u00eb pastaj ne menduam, e rikonceptuam departamentin dhe kjo ishte gj\u00eb e mir\u00eb, pra ideja \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb mrekulli t\u00eb kesh di\u00e7ka q\u00eb s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb e nd\u00ebrtuar q\u00eb ti ta mendosh dhe filluam ta mendonim si departament sepse po zgjerohej spektri i departamentit t\u00eb Gazetaris\u00eb me profesionet e Komunikimit dhe e rikonceptuam kurikul\u00ebn n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb form\u00eb, pra q\u00eb kishte dhe gazetari por dhe profesione t\u00eb ardhshme t\u00eb komunikimit dhe kemi punuar shum\u00eb, realisht. Ndihem v\u00ebrtet mir\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb q\u00eb p\u00ebrtej po themi pun\u00ebs s\u00eb zakonshme ka qen\u00eb k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Po n\u00eb pik\u00ebpamje t\u00eb interesit t\u00eb student\u00ebve, t\u00eb impaktit t\u00eb pun\u00ebs suaj si trup\u00eb pedagogjike, si e shikon evolucionin? Ka shpes\u00eb apo s\u2019ka shpres\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Absolutisht! T\u00eb gjith\u00eb student\u00ebt thot\u00eb a jan\u00eb student\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb si\u00e7 kemi qen\u00eb ne, apo jan\u00eb m\u00eb keq?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Po, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> N\u00eb thelb \u00e7far\u00eb shikoj un\u00eb, ne kemi dhe pak fatin q\u00eb ne na vijn\u00eb student\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb pretendime, pra nga pik\u00ebpamja po themi si\u00e7 ndahen sipas Matur\u00ebs Shtet\u00ebrore, ne kemi student\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Ashtu \u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Po. Nuk na vijn\u00eb student\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb ngelur, nuk e kemi k\u00ebt\u00eb kategori. N\u00eb thelb ata jan\u00eb natyr\u00eb studenti. Ajo \u00e7far\u00eb un\u00eb shikoj, ata q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb, jan\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb se\u00e7 kemi qen\u00eb ne n\u00eb vitet \u201990, por ata q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebqij, jan\u00eb v\u00ebrtet m\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebqij. Por nj\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, se shpesh her\u00eb thuhet po mir\u00eb pse ky student k\u00ebtu vjen dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb k\u00ebshtu? Po asnj\u00eb shkoll\u00eb nuk p\u00ebrgatit, filozofia nuk p\u00ebrgatit filozof\u00eb, jep dije p\u00ebr filozofin\u00eb. Fizika nuk p\u00ebrgatit shkenc\u00ebtar\u00eb Fizike, nuk nxjerr shkenc\u00ebtar\u00eb nga shkolla. Ai b\u00ebhet shkenc\u00ebtar n\u00eb rrug\u00eb e sip\u00ebr. Ashtu dhe Gazetaria pra, jep premisa q\u00eb gazetari t\u00eb b\u00ebhet i mir\u00eb n\u00eb tregun e pun\u00ebs, por profesionist nuk del nga bankat e shkoll\u00ebs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Po kur mbarojn\u00eb tipikisht dometh\u00ebne, shkojn\u00eb n\u00ebp\u00ebr media apo b\u00ebjn\u00eb edhe gj\u00ebra t\u00eb ndryshme?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Ne kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb studim se b\u00ebm\u00eb nj\u00eb ristukturim t\u00eb kurikul\u00ebs, se p\u00ebr shkak se dega jon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e lidhur shum\u00eb me zhvillimet teknologjike, ne e kemi konceptuar kurikul\u00ebn \u00e7do 10 vjet dhe do t\u00eb b\u00ebnim nj\u00eb rikonceptim t\u00eb kurrikul\u00ebs sepse ka ndryshuar totalisht profesioni i gazetarit, multimedialiteti, digjitalizimi, vet\u00eb Gazetaria \u00ebsht\u00eb di\u00e7ka shpesh her\u00eb nd\u00ebrmjet Marketingut, mes Publicitetit e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb dhe duke pasur parasysh k\u00ebt\u00eb gam\u00eb t\u00eb gjer\u00eb profesionesh q\u00eb ofron po themi zhvillimet teknologjike, ne menduam q\u00eb ta b\u00ebjm\u00eb ndryshe nga \u00e7\u2019b\u00ebhet zakonisht. Hajde t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb ca ndryshime t\u00eb tipit sporadik. \u00c7far\u00eb b\u00ebm\u00eb? B\u00ebm\u00eb nj\u00eb studim me student\u00ebt tan\u00eb n\u00eb tregun e pun\u00ebs. I nxorr\u00ebm t\u00eb gjith\u00eb student\u00ebt q\u00eb kan\u00eb studiuar n\u00eb departamentin e Gazetaris\u00eb nga \u201994-\u201993 e k\u00ebtej, mor\u00ebm t\u00eb dh\u00ebna se ku ishin n\u00eb tregun e pun\u00ebs, n\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb pozicionesh dhe pastaj nxorr\u00ebm t\u00eb dh\u00ebnat, i vizualizuam dhe u b\u00ebm\u00eb nj\u00eb pyet\u00ebsor: \u00c7far\u00eb ju jep ju kurrikula e departamentit n\u00eb tregun e pun\u00ebs, n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb q\u00eb ne ta nd\u00ebrtonim edhe mbi baz\u00ebn e nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoje shum\u00eb vje\u00e7are t\u00eb student\u00ebve aty dhe \u00e7far\u00eb na rezultoi, q\u00eb diku mbi 55%, se ka 3 vjet q\u00eb e kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb at\u00eb, punojn\u00eb n\u00eb tregun e medias, pjesa tjet\u00ebr punojn\u00eb n\u00eb profesione t\u00eb komunikimit, PR, Marketing e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, pjesa tjet\u00ebr punonin n\u00eb pun\u00eb intelektuale, por jo n\u00eb profesion dhe vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr 4% nuk arritem t\u00eb siguronim t\u00eb dh\u00ebna se nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb ishin jasht\u00eb e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, por nga pik\u00ebpamja dhe kur ua them koleg\u00ebve t\u00eb mi kur shkojn\u00eb q\u00eb kemi k\u00ebto takimet, aktivitete me universitete ata habiten me nivelin e lart\u00eb t\u00eb pun\u00ebsimit. P\u00ebr shembull ne kemi gjysm\u00ebn e student\u00ebve, qysh n\u00eb vitin e dyt\u00eb fillojn\u00eb pun\u00eb n\u00eb tregun e mediave, q\u00eb do t\u00eb thot\u00eb k\u00ebrkesa e tregut \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe. Pritshm\u00ebrit\u00eb pastaj q\u00eb student\u00ebt gjejn\u00eb n\u00eb treg, \u00ebsht\u00eb problem sepse shkojn\u00eb aty, ok,\u00a0 kushtet ekonomike po kjo pastaj i \u00e7on drejt p\u00ebrtej Gazetaris\u00eb dhe Gazetaria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb trampolin\u00eb shum\u00eb e mir\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u2019i b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb prerje shoq\u00ebris\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb krijuar edhe marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie q\u00eb t\u00eb shkosh p\u00ebrej edhe Gazetaris\u00eb, njohjet, agresiviteti t\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebto i b\u00ebjn\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb zot\u00eb, q\u00eb pastaj n\u00eb kuptimin e p\u00ebrgjithsh\u00ebm n\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb jen\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb aft\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjetur vendin e vet\u00eb edhe p\u00ebrtej Gazetaris\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Bukur e gjitha, po nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb un\u00eb po mendoj p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb pjese sepse kur mora p\u00ebrgjigje pozitive, fillova t\u00eb mendoj si mund t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtohet biseda dhe mendova q\u00eb rruga m\u00eb e mir\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb hyr\u00eb te pjesa m\u00eb sfiduese s\u2019po them, \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb ne ta nd\u00ebrtojm\u00eb nj\u00eb pyetje un\u00eb p\u00ebr ty, nj\u00eb pyetje ti p\u00ebr mua, nj\u00eb pyetje un\u00eb p\u00ebr ty, nj\u00eb pyetje ti p\u00ebr mua edhe dalim n\u00eb fund, nuk e di si dalim dhe po e filloj un\u00eb me pyetjen e par\u00eb dhe pastaj t\u00eb garantohem q\u00eb pyetja jote e par\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e leht\u00eb. Si mund t\u2019i besoje ti dikujt q\u00eb shum\u00eb koh\u00eb m\u00eb pas, edhe p\u00ebr ty rezultoi q\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb besohej m\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: E para\u2026. po flet n\u00eb kuptimin politik?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Politik pra, se t\u00eb tjerat i b\u00ebjm\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Shiko, un\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se bes-futem te njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb besoj dhe q\u00eb i marr q\u00eb ashtu\u2026 por shikoj q\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Jo, s\u2019futesh te njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb i beson dikujt n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb verb\u00ebr, se p\u00ebr t\u00eb besuar beson plot<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> P\u00ebr t\u00eb besuar, besoj, besoj shum\u00eb.\u00a0 Por n\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb, po them se thon\u00eb a u zhg\u00ebnjeve, se ma kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pyetje, e b\u00ebjn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pyetje shpesh her\u00eb, jo nuk u zhg\u00ebnjeva se nuk nuk kam qen\u00eb g\u00ebnjyer. P\u00ebr mua, nj\u00eb formacion politik si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb PD-ja, si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb PS-ja, si\u00e7 jan\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha formacionet politike, jan\u00eb platforma, instrumente q\u00eb njer\u00ebz q\u00eb kan\u00eb interesa p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb kontribut X n\u00eb nj\u00eb krah t\u00eb caktuar politik, u ofrohet si nj\u00eb mund\u00ebsi q\u00eb, pra me infrastruktur\u00ebn, me ndikimin me t\u00eb gjitha q\u00eb ti t\u00eb jesh, pra n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se do t\u00eb angazhosh, ta ushtrosh angazhimin n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb efikase dhe Partia Demokratike \u00ebsht\u00eb struktur\u00eb e madhe politike me shtres\u00ebzime n\u00eb elektorat, me p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn e vet\u00eb, me t\u00eb mirat dhe t\u00eb k\u00ebqijat e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb. Gj\u00ebja q\u00eb m\u00eb b\u00ebnte q\u00eb un\u00eb t\u00eb besoj po themi n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rast, ishte kjo q\u00eb Ok, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb struktur\u00eb q\u00eb duke, e njihja shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, q\u00eb t\u00eb jem i qart\u00eb, jo direkt, po qoft\u00eb edhe n\u00eb distanc\u00eb, po edhe nga nj\u00eb p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb q\u00eb kam pasur, kam qen\u00eb deputet, pra isha n\u00eb nj\u00eb ambient q\u00eb un\u00eb e njihja mir\u00eb dhe e dija \u00e7far\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebqijash dhe \u00e7far\u00eb t\u00eb mirash kishte. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebja e par\u00eb. E dyta, un\u00eb mendoja q\u00eb ishte momenti q\u00eb Partia Demokratike ta b\u00ebnte nj\u00eb kap\u00ebrcim dhe q\u00eb t\u00eb flas hapur, un\u00eb mendoj dhe vazhdoj t\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb 8 vjet, n\u00eb kuptimin e pushtetit p\u00ebr nj\u00eb forc\u00eb politike, jan\u00eb ezauruese dhe mendoj q\u00eb duhej ndryshim. Ndryshim, flet p\u00ebr ndryshim, por shko jepja, b\u00ebje gj\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00ebnde. Angazhimi im ka qen\u00eb vet\u00ebm n\u00eb planin intelektual deri n\u00eb dy jav\u00ebt e fundit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Jo, pyetja ime ishte pak m\u00eb e gjer\u00eb, n\u00eb sensin q\u00eb ti ke qen\u00eb i p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb n\u00eb l\u00ebvizjen e dhjetorit, p\u00ebrpara, pastaj si shum\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, pastaj p\u00ebr nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb koh\u00eb je marr\u00eb me poezi, je marr\u00eb me at\u00eb rrethin t\u00ebnd e te tjer\u00eb e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, pastaj n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment t\u00eb caktuar, ka qen\u00eb shum\u00eb vite p\u00ebrpara n\u00eb fakt, ti u riaftove aty edhe pavar\u00ebsisht se fillimisht jo fare brenda, por u afrove goxha. Pastaj pate dhe nj\u00eb moment shum\u00eb vite m\u00ebp\u00ebrpara, madje n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb un\u00eb n\u00ebse t\u00eb kujtohet t\u00eb pata dh\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shqet\u00ebsim q\u00eb shprehe publikisht, q\u00eb do t\u00eb thot\u00eb n\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb ecuri kohe, ti e shikoje se kush udh\u00ebhiqte, si udh\u00ebhiqte e t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb sens e kisha dhe gjithmon\u00eb kur, nuk po p\u00ebrmend emra t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, por p\u00ebr disa njer\u00ebz p\u00ebr t\u00eb cil\u00ebt, n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha rastet \u00ebsht\u00eb e pamundur q\u00eb t\u00eb mos kesh respekt p\u00ebr \u00e7do gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr jasht\u00eb aren\u00ebs dhe jasht\u00eb p\u00ebrplasjes, gjithmon\u00eb them po mir\u00eb mo si kan\u00eb besuar k\u00ebta njer\u00ebz q\u00eb do t\u00eb shkonte ndryshe ajo gj\u00eb, edhe sot, duke ndjekur edhe prononcimet e tua t\u00eb disa koh\u00ebve m\u00eb par\u00eb, se tani nuk kam, ndoshta ke shprehur, por un\u00eb s\u2019kam ndjekur por deri t\u00eb disa koh\u00ebve m\u00eb par\u00eb, thoja dakord, k\u00ebto jan\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebshtu, po si mundej q\u00eb t\u00eb duhej kaq shum\u00eb koh\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u2019i par\u00eb k\u00ebto. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb sens e kisha.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama: <\/strong>N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb sens e kisha. Jo thjesht\u00eb tek futja n\u00eb gar\u00ebn e deputetit sepse p\u00ebr hir t\u00eb s\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebs dhe e them pa asnj\u00eb nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb asnj\u00eb lloj kompliment se n\u00ebse ka nj\u00eb bised\u00eb pa asnj\u00eb interes as nga nj\u00ebra an\u00eb as nga ana tjet\u00ebr, \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo. E kam par\u00eb me shum\u00eb respekt at\u00eb q\u00ebndrimin se \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e rrall\u00eb, un\u00eb se di sa njer\u00ebz e kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb, mbase ka dhe ndonj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb s\u2019m\u00eb kujtohet e k\u00ebshtu me radhe q\u00eb dikush q\u00eb hyn n\u00eb at\u00eb valle n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb aq plateale dhe aq t\u00eb menj\u00ebhershme dhe t\u00eb dali nga vallja me zgjedhjen e vet se mund t\u00eb rrije n\u00eb valle dhe ta luaje nga t\u00eb kat\u00ebrta an\u00ebt muzik\u00ebn. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb aspekt e kisha. P\u00ebr m\u00eb shum\u00eb n\u00eb hart\u00ebn e jet\u00ebs s\u00eb nj\u00eb njeriu q\u00eb si shum\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb ka qen\u00eb i angazhuar me besim t\u00eb madh si antikomunist por ne vazhdim bashk\u00eb me k\u00ebt\u00eb pre antikomuniste dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb zhvilluar, \u00ebsht\u00eb kultivuar, ka par\u00eb bot\u00ebn, ka ngjitur shkall\u00eb n\u00eb karrier\u00eb, ka b\u00ebr\u00eb doktoratur\u00eb n\u00eb Franc\u00eb etj etj dhe nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pyetja ime<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Lidhja ime me PD si forc\u00eb politike besoj \u00ebsht\u00eb ajo q\u00eb the, nj\u00eb moment po themi. Momenti ishte l\u00ebvizja e student\u00ebve. Dhe ai si moment ka qen\u00eb momenti i par\u00eb dhe ndoshta i fundit i angazhimit tim romantik politik dhe prej asaj doli PD dhe gjith\u00eb partit\u00eb shqiptare pastaj sepse pluralizmi, t\u00eb gjitha u transformuan, etj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Por emocionalisht un\u00eb kam qen\u00eb p\u00ebrher\u00eb i lidhur me at\u00eb moment, momenti q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb momenti i ndritsh\u00ebm. N\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha rastet nuk kam pasur angazhim t\u00eb tipit militant me strukturat. Jam munduar q\u00eb t\u00eb mbaj, po themi lidhjen ta kemi k\u00ebshtu n\u00eb konkordanc\u00eb n\u00eb kuptimin politik ose ideologjik duke ndjekur p\u00ebrher\u00eb at\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb mendoja un\u00eb sepse ajo do ishte me kosto p\u00ebr mua n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb individuale dhe p\u00ebrher\u00eb kam menduar q\u00eb nj\u00eb forc\u00eb politike i ka p\u00ebrher\u00eb energjit\u00eb e brendshme, qoft\u00eb kur \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb shk\u00eblqim, qoft\u00eb kur \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb r\u00ebnie q\u00eb t\u00eb ri shpik\u00eb veten. Dhe kam menduar q\u00eb OK, ky \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb moment. Mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb momenti i pushtetit, nuk mund t\u00eb qeveriset me k\u00ebt\u00eb mentalitet, do duhet t\u00eb nd\u00ebrroj\u00eb mentalitetin n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse do qeveriset sepse presioni i qeverisjes \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i madh edhe n\u00eb kuptimin pozitiv dhe n\u00eb kuptimin negativ. Do tu p\u00ebrgjigjesh disa nevojave dhe nevojat t\u00eb t\u00ebrheqin q\u00eb ti t\u00eb b\u00ebsh edhe gj\u00ebra q\u00eb ndoshta s\u2019do duhej ti b\u00ebje dhe n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb kuptim kam menduar q\u00eb OK, sepse ka energji brenda PD dhe mua m\u00eb vjen keq q\u00eb k\u00ebto energji shkojn\u00eb kot, mua kjo m\u00eb shqet\u00ebson<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Ka energji, ka njer\u00ebz t\u00eb cil\u00ebt qoft\u00eb nga brenda por dhe nga jasht\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb si tip garniture po themi, q\u00eb jan\u00eb pjes\u00eb e shoq\u00ebris\u00eb q\u00eb shkon m\u00eb shum\u00eb djathtas, q\u00eb e duan ndryshimin por shkon aty sepse ruajn\u00eb veten, duke njohur strukturat politik\u00ebn thon\u00eb : pse t\u00eb shkoj k\u00ebtu. Un\u00eb nuk jam nga kjo natyr\u00eb, q\u00eb hezitoj. Po, do ta b\u00ebj dhe pastaj rrug\u00ebs p\u00ebrcaktoj un\u00eb veten, nuk m\u00eb p\u00ebrcakton mua kjo forc\u00eb politike dhe sic ka ndodhur her\u00ebn e par\u00eb. Shkova, pranova, nuk kam k\u00ebrkuar asnj\u00ebher\u00eb, kurr\u00eb dhe realisht njer\u00ebzit ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk e besojn\u00eb, thon\u00eb b\u00ebn sepse realisht e do. Normalisht e kam dashur n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb kam vendosur dhe her\u00ebn e par\u00eb dhe her\u00ebn e dyte. Pra kam menduar, po do shkoj dhe pastaj dhe her\u00ebn e par\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb e pash\u00eb q\u00eb shum\u00eb gjera nuk funksiononin jam shprehur dhe rithemelimin e PD un\u00eb e kam k\u00ebrkuar kur PD ishte n\u00eb pushtet n\u00eb 2011 dhe publikisht dhe me dy faqe gazete Panorama dhe n\u00eb Top Channel n\u00eb emisionin kryesor. At\u00ebher\u00eb thoshim \u00e7far\u00eb k\u00ebrkon ky, ne jemi n\u00eb pushtet, ne jemi rehat, ne jemi mir\u00eb, ky k\u00ebrkon q\u00eb ne t\u00eb humbim pushtetin etj dhe un\u00eb thoja n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse ne vazhdojm\u00eb k\u00ebshtu n\u00eb 2011, duke iu q\u00ebndruar bindjeve t\u00eb mia se ajo ishte arsyeja pse isha aty se p\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00eb do isha un\u00eb aty? Q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebhesha drejtor, apo q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebhesha minist\u00ebr apo q\u00eb t\u00eb em\u00ebroja drejtor apo ministra. Jo, isha aty se mendoja se mund t\u00eb ndikoj dhe d\u00ebshira p\u00ebr ndikim dhe po them e vetmja arsye \u00ebsht\u00eb pse t\u00eb mos ndikosh n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse ke mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb ndikosh dhe thoja n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse vazhdon k\u00ebshtu do ta humbin pushtetin por dhe n\u00ebqoft\u00ebse fiton do fitoj\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb keqen e shqiptar\u00ebve k\u00ebshtu sic \u00ebsht\u00eb, nj\u00eb mandat t\u00eb tret\u00eb si\u00e7 ishte mandati i 2013. Duke par\u00eb sesi aty k\u00ebto forcat e pushtetit q\u00eb e kan\u00eb pushtetin si pron\u00eb dominonin totalisht hap\u00ebsir\u00ebn e forcave t\u00eb tjera, nj\u00eb partie politike apo nj\u00eb formacioni politik q\u00eb, ndoshta kan\u00eb dhe interesa ndoshta e kan\u00eb di\u00e7ka p\u00ebrtej asaj gj\u00ebs\u00eb t\u00eb vog\u00ebl dhe e kam menduar t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn gj\u00eb. Thash\u00eb me vete: prit se k\u00ebt\u00eb radh\u00eb, plus t\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn e shikoja Bash\u00ebn kryetarin e at\u00ebhershme t\u00eb PD dhe t\u00eb opozit\u00ebs si nj\u00eb po themi format t\u00eb p\u00ebrshtatsh\u00ebm q\u00eb mund t\u00eb sillte di\u00e7ka t\u00eb re n\u00eb politik\u00ebn shqiptare. Pra at\u00eb q\u00eb\u00a0 t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt e quanin si dob\u00ebsi lidershipin, un\u00eb ia quaja p\u00ebrpar\u00ebsi. Pse? Sepse mendoja dhe ia kam th\u00ebn\u00eb sa her\u00eb bisedoja me t\u00eb: Ti nuk je lider i fort\u00eb, b\u00ebhu i fort\u00eb duke qen\u00eb lider i dob\u00ebt dhe duke shfaqur profilin e nj\u00eb lideri i cili qeveris, pra krijon mozaik dhe ti je guri.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Epo do forc\u00eb t\u00eb madhe ajo!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Edhe ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb element lidershipi. Pra k\u00ebt\u00eb mendoja un\u00eb, q\u00eb mund t\u00eb realizohet. Normalisht n\u00eb politik\u00eb ti e di shum\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb s\u2019ka kurrfar\u00eb garancie. Ajo cka ti e pret nes\u00ebr, ndodh sot dhe ajo \u00e7ka ti pret pasnes\u00ebr t\u00eb ndodh pas 10 viteve, nuk ndodh kurr\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb mendoja dhe kaq dhe iu p\u00ebrgjigja nj\u00eb ftese shum\u00eb k\u00ebmb\u00ebngul\u00ebse dhe mendoja q\u00eb po, mund t\u00eb b\u00ebhet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Ok, pres pyetjen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: Pyetja: Ti do shfaqesh pas nj\u00eb viti n\u00eb zgjedhje para shqiptar\u00ebve. Tre mandate! Me t\u00eb mirat dhe t\u00eb k\u00ebqijat e tre mandateve por me nj\u00eb qeverisje t\u00eb gjat\u00eb si\u00e7 ka ndodhur me qeverisjen tuaj, disa probleme themelore r\u00ebndojn\u00eb, korrupsioni, emigracioni i gjeneratave t\u00eb reja. Shum\u00eb probleme q\u00eb krijon q\u00eb qeverisje me tre mandate q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb. \u00c7far\u00eb do tu thuash shqiptar\u00ebve p\u00ebr mandatin e kat\u00ebrt? Shqet\u00ebsimi \u00ebsht\u00eb : do tu thuash k\u00ebshtu jemi mir\u00eb dhe vazhdojm\u00eb k\u00ebshtu apo do thuash : do b\u00ebjm\u00eb at\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb s\u2019kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb deri tani dhe \u00e7far\u00eb do jet\u00eb gj\u00ebja q\u00eb s\u2019keni b\u00ebr\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> K\u00ebshtu jemi mir\u00eb dhe vazhdojm\u00eb k\u00ebshtu un\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsisht p\u00ebrpiqem t\u00eb mos e them asnj\u00ebher\u00eb. Un\u00eb them po, q\u00eb ne mund t\u00eb mos jemi m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00ebt por m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb se ne s\u2019ka por jo k\u00ebshtu jemi mir\u00eb se n\u00ebse n\u00eb momentin kur them p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsisht duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb k\u00ebshtu por un\u00eb e kam k\u00ebshtu, n\u00eb momentin kur un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb gj\u00ebja \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb dhe ndjehem i k\u00ebnaqur me gj\u00ebn\u00eb un\u00eb skam m\u00eb motiv k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb aspekt nuk jam n\u00eb rrezik. Besoj, shpresoj, uroj! \u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb q\u00eb ne kemi probleme patjet\u00ebr se do ishte e kot\u00eb ti mohonim dhe nga ana tjet\u00ebr n\u00ebse nuk i pranon problemet at\u00ebher\u00eb jo vet\u00ebm q\u00eb nuk ke shans ti zgjidh\u00ebsh por kthehesh n\u00eb rrezik sepse problemet agravohen dhe faktikisht b\u00ebhen edhe kancerogjene te pash\u00ebrueshme. Por un\u00eb besoj q\u00eb ne i kemi dh\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb madhe k\u00ebtij vendi, besoj mund\u00ebsi q\u00eb nuk e ka pasur m\u00eb p\u00ebrpara, q\u00eb t\u00eb ket\u00eb nj\u00eb drejt\u00ebsi t\u00eb pavarur nga pushteti politik dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe arsyeja q\u00eb p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb ne kemi nj\u00eb drejt\u00ebsi e cila vepron e pavarur nga pushteti politik. Se kemi pasur ministra t\u00eb pushkatuar dhe m\u00eb p\u00ebrpara dhe kan\u00eb qen\u00eb vullnet politik dhe drejt\u00ebsia ka qen\u00eb pushka p\u00ebr ti vrar\u00eb<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Kemi nj\u00eb moment shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm ndryshimi q\u00eb sa \u00ebsht\u00eb inkurajues aq \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe fraxhil dhe garantimi i pa thyeshm\u00ebris\u00eb s\u00eb k\u00ebtij procesi p\u00ebr mua \u00ebsht\u00eb i domosdosh\u00ebm. Nga ana tjet\u00ebr sigurisht q\u00eb lufta me korrupsionin nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht\u00eb lufta e drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb luft\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb pasur n\u00eb gjith\u00eb frontin e institucioneve nj\u00eb soliditet dhe nj\u00eb kapacitet q\u00eb ia ngushton maksimalisht korrupsionit hap\u00ebsirat se n\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb korrupsioni n\u00eb thelb?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Korrupsioni n\u00eb thelb \u00ebsht\u00eb alternativ\u00eb e nj\u00eb sh\u00ebrbimi t\u00eb munguar. Alternativ\u00eb e nj\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb t\u00eb mohuar, alternativ\u00eb e nj\u00eb merit\u00eb t\u00eb paplot\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb nuk e marr dot n\u00eb rrug\u00eb t\u00eb ligjshme dhe n\u00eb rrug\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb, at\u00ebher\u00eb p\u00ebrpiqem q\u00eb ta marr duke shkuar duke paguar etj etj<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Por duke qen\u00eb nj\u00eb alternativ\u00eb pa rregulla e munges\u00ebs s\u00eb rrug\u00ebve t\u00eb ligjshme t\u00eb garantuar p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjith\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe nj\u00eb alternativ\u00eb padrejt\u00ebsie e madhe. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb, p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb arsye kjo duhet t\u00eb shkoj\u00eb paralel. Un\u00eb besoj q\u00eb kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra pozitive n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb aspekt dhe n\u00eb k\u00ebndv\u00ebshtrimin tim dhe duke iu referuar t\u00eb dh\u00ebnave, fakteve ne jemi sot komplet tjet\u00ebr situat\u00eb n\u00eb raport me cfar\u00eb ishim por kjo nuk mjafton, \u00ebsht\u00eb krejt e pamjaftueshme dhe duhet ta ngrem\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr stek\u00ebn e luft\u00ebs ndaj korrupsionit n\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb frontin jo thjesht\u00eb tek drejt\u00ebsia por n\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb frontin<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: dhe ky \u00ebsht\u00eb, si t\u00eb thuash, momenti q\u00eb ma b\u00ebn m\u00eb tundues se \u00e7do gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, ose m\u00eb sakt\u00eb, nj\u00ebri nga dy momentet dhe pozicioni n\u00eb raport me mandatin e kat\u00ebrt, sepse n\u00eb kushte tjera, n\u00ebse do t\u00eb kisha bindjen q\u00eb s\u2019kam m\u00eb, nuk varet m\u00eb se a jam un\u00eb, a s\u2019jam un\u00eb n\u00eb krye t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj force politike dhe se disa gj\u00ebra si kjo ose di\u00e7ka tjet\u00ebr si plot\u00ebsimi i atij mozaikut q\u00eb i kemi nisur me imazhin e Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb, me turizmin, me ngritjen e nivelit t\u00eb gjith\u00eb industris\u00eb s\u00eb turizmit do ishin garantuara n\u00eb vazhdim\u00ebsi, mbase nuk do t\u00eb kisha nuk do t\u00eb kisha m\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb tundim se n\u00eb fund do ta b\u00ebj edhe nj\u00eb pyetje tjet\u00ebr lidhur me k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7lirimi nga kjo barra e presionit t\u00eb p\u00ebrditsh\u00ebm q\u00eb ka politika m\u00eb mir\u00eb, se pavar\u00ebsisht se ti nuk e ke pas barr\u00ebn e t\u00eb qenit n\u00eb nj\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb zyr\u00eb drejtuese, po prap\u00eb ai presioni n\u00eb kok\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb permanent dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb kondicionues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Tani pyetje ime.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku<\/strong>: A mund t\u00eb vet\u00ebm pak p\u00ebr p\u00ebrgjigjen, pa komentuar, po normalisht q\u00eb pozicionimin ndaj drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb q\u00eb keni, \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb korrekt dhe vjen mir\u00eb q\u00eb ne kemi arrit n\u00eb nj\u00eb pik\u00eb q\u00eb drejt\u00ebsia funksionon pa presionin e politik\u00ebs, pra \u00ebsht\u00eb, p\u00ebr mua \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb hap i mir\u00eb, por q\u00eb nuk garanton drejt\u00ebsi. Drejt\u00ebsia m\u00eb e madhe, thoshte nj\u00eb shkrimtar, \u00ebsht\u00eb lufta p\u00ebr drejt\u00ebsi dhe po keni n\u00eb diskursin tuaj, n\u00eb raport\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> M\u00eb fol me ti se m\u00eb shkat\u00ebrrove<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Jo, flas edhe ju, edhe ju n\u00eb kuptim, flas ju forca politike, n\u00eb diskursin n\u00eb raport me drejt\u00ebsin\u00eb dhe me korrupsionin mendoj q\u00eb keni nj\u00eb problem t\u00eb madh. Okej, drejt\u00ebsia t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb, t\u00eb merret, nuk i nd\u00ebrhyjm\u00eb n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb trajton \u00e7\u00ebshtja afera korruptive por, do t\u00eb duhet dhe k\u00ebtu jam k\u00ebtu e kam at\u00eb po themi kritik\u00ebn time, q\u00eb po them m\u00eb but\u00eb, po q\u00eb n\u00eb fakt \u00ebsht\u00eb kritik\u00eb e fort\u00eb. Problemi \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb ju t\u00eb mos \u00eb pra si struktur\u00eb qeverisje duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebni q\u00eb jo q\u00eb t\u00eb prodhoni shum\u00eb t\u00eb korruptuar q\u00eb drejt\u00ebsia t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb, pra nuk duhet t\u2019i siguroni mos t\u00eb jet\u00eb mos t\u00eb jet\u00eb drejt\u00ebsia nj\u00eb fabrik\u00eb q\u00eb bluan t\u00eb korruptuarit por q\u00eb vet\u00eb struktura, sistemi i qeverisjes e tjer\u00eb e tjer\u00eb, t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb pak\u00ebsojn\u00eb n\u00eb maksimum.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong> Ekzakt. Dhe kjo ishte ajo q\u00eb u p\u00ebrpoqa t\u00eb them,\u00a0 ndoshta nuk e thash\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dhe duhet gjetur nj\u00eb form\u00eb mendoj, duhet nj\u00eb duhet di\u00e7ka konkrete q\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt ndihen shum\u00eb t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqur q\u00eb, okej, drejt\u00ebsia t\u00eb merret me k\u00ebdo q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i\u00a0 korruptuar, por nga an\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr, duhet reagim i brendsh\u00ebm ndaj korrupsionit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Ekzakt, dhe k\u00ebtu k\u00ebt\u00eb u p\u00ebrpoqa them ndoshta, kritika ma vlen p\u00ebr t\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb modifikuar m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn si e them, sepse k\u00ebt\u00eb e p\u00ebrpiqem t\u00eb them gjith\u00eb koh\u00ebs q\u00eb kur them q\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht drejt\u00ebsia q\u00eb lufton korrupsionin, po duhet q\u00eb shteti t\u00eb ngrihet n\u00eb nj\u00eb nivel ku hap\u00ebsirat p\u00ebr korrupsion ngushtohen nga sistemi i funksionimit dhe nga m\u00ebnyra se si mekanizmat funksionojn\u00eb, k\u00ebt\u00eb kam parasysh. Por, nga ana tjet\u00ebr dhe nuk dua t\u00eb justifikohem, besoj q\u00eb mund ta mb\u00ebshtes me argumente me fakte at\u00eb q\u00eb po them. Kjo klim\u00eb ka edhe nj\u00eb efekt st\u00ebrzmadhues t\u00eb gj\u00ebs\u00eb, sepse ndodh p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb dhe duke ndodhur p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00ebrheq\u00ebse dhe normalisht t\u00eb gjith\u00eb publikun \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb ushqyese p\u00ebr mediat dhe p\u00ebr gjith\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb k\u00ebrkimin p\u00ebr gjak, n\u00eb thonj\u00ebza dhe p\u00ebr st\u00ebrzmadhim t\u00eb nj\u00eb perceptimi q\u00eb sikur k\u00ebtu sikur k\u00ebtu gjith\u00e7ka ndodh ashtu si kund\u00ebr shfaqet n\u00eb k\u00ebto raste, po e kund\u00ebrta \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, sepse ne e kemi,\u00a0 p\u00ebr shembull po t\u00eb marrim nj\u00eb rast dhe nuk do t\u00eb hyj n\u00eb faj, t\u00eb marrim se nj\u00eb nga zonat, po themi, ku l\u00ebviz m\u00eb shum\u00eb paraja n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb ekonomi edhe ku ka m\u00eb shum\u00eb terren p\u00ebr korrupsionin jan\u00eb prokurimet dhe n\u00ebse marrim e shohim dhe nuk diskutohet q\u00eb sot e gjith\u00eb dit\u00ebn ne kemi probleme me prokurimet, por n\u00ebse marrim shohin t\u00eb dh\u00ebnave t\u00eb prokurimeve, n\u00ebse marrim shohim n\u00eb vite se si ka ndryshuar gjith\u00eb legjislacioni i prokurimeve, gj\u00eb q\u00eb ne na e kan\u00eb v\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb pah edhe raportet e progresit t\u00eb Bashkimit Evropian, madje n\u00eb raportin e progresit dhe n\u00eb t\u00eb dh\u00ebnat e pavarura e tyre, ne jemi sot me pik\u00ebt m\u00eb t\u00eb larta n\u00eb rajon, n\u00eb aspektin e konformitetit t\u00eb gjith\u00eb sistemit t\u00eb prokurimit publike, por kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebra an\u00eb, kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb shkruhet n\u00eb let\u00ebr. Nd\u00ebrsa \u00e7far\u00eb thon\u00eb shifrat, shp\u00ebrndarja e fondeve, ulja e pragut t\u00eb prokurimit, pra kursimi i\u00a0 parave t\u00eb prokuruara si pasoj\u00eb e preferencave p\u00ebr ofertat m\u00eb t\u00eb arsyeshme, jan\u00eb shum\u00eb evidente. Gjithsesi e mir\u00ebkuptoj plot\u00ebsisht k\u00ebt\u00eb qasje edhe me siguri, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 t\u00eb tjerave,\u00a0 ne duhet t\u00eb shohim m\u00eb mir\u00eb edhe m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn si nd\u00ebrtojm\u00eb narrativ\u00ebn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb pyetja tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb kam \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe kjo fakt i lidh pak t\u00eb dyja, lidh edhe gjith\u00eb studimet, profesionin t\u00ebnd edhe aktivitetin t\u00ebnd politik, pse nuk arrijm\u00eb ne q\u00eb t\u00eb, se t\u00eb flasim k\u00ebshtu, se un\u00eb jam i bindur q\u00eb, n\u00ebse ne do b\u00ebnim nj\u00eb debat politik tani, q\u00eb nuk do ishte , sis t\u00eb thuash, me k\u00ebto dorashkat e miq\u00ebsis\u00eb dhe t\u00eb mir\u00ebsjelljes, n\u00eb munges\u00eb t\u00eb interesit politik t\u00eb bised\u00ebs, un\u00eb jam i bindur q\u00eb ne do t\u00eb mund ta b\u00ebnim nj\u00eb bised\u00eb, ku n\u00eb fund fare mund t\u00eb ishim komplet n\u00eb k\u00ebnde n\u00eb cepat ndryshe, n\u00eb cepat kund\u00ebr, por n\u00eb fund njer\u00ebzit do na d\u00ebgjoni, do arrin ta d\u00ebgjonin, do arrinin t\u00eb kuptonin \u00e7ka tha nj\u00ebri, \u00e7ka tha tjetri dhe do dilnim nga kjo tryez\u00eb, jo si\u00a0 armiq. Pse nuk arrijm\u00eb dot ne, pas kaq e kaq vitesh q\u00eb t\u00eb kemi n\u00eb mjedisin ton\u00eb publik, n\u00eb debatin ton\u00eb publik nj\u00eb komunikim, sepse un\u00eb as nuk besoj nj\u00ebri q\u00eb k\u00ebto debatet me klithmave dhe me goditje dhe kund\u00ebrgoditje, ku praktikisht jemi futur t\u00eb gjith\u00eb dhe jemi p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb, n\u00eb nj\u00eb\u00a0 m\u00ebnyr\u00eb ose n\u00eb nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr rrisim pik\u00eb n\u00eb opinion p\u00ebr nj\u00ebrin ose p\u00ebr tjetrin. \u00a0Un\u00eb nuk e besoj k\u00ebt\u00eb.\u00a0 Patjet\u00ebr q\u00eb kur je i rreshtuar n\u00eb nj\u00eb parti, ata q\u00eb t\u00eb kan\u00eb votuar ty n\u00eb Lezh\u00eb, thon\u00eb\u201d Bravo, mir\u00eb b\u00ebre, fen\u00eb i luajte Edi Ram\u00ebs\u201d, ata q\u00eb m\u00eb kan\u00eb votuar mua thon\u00eb \u201cMir\u00eb b\u00ebre atij Mark Markut\u201d por, tek pjesa tjet\u00ebr, n\u00eb njer\u00ebzve q\u00eb nuk jan\u00eb t\u00eb angazhuar n\u00eb brezin e par\u00eb t\u00eb politik\u00ebs dhe q\u00eb ata, Se ia b\u00ebre mir\u00eb, se ia b\u00ebre mir\u00eb, ata do t\u00eb votojn\u00eb prap\u00eb, se jan\u00eb si t\u00eb thuash\u00a0 palca e formacionit politik, tek t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt, un\u00eb nuk besoj se kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb vler\u00eb e shtuar.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Pse? Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb d\u00ebgjoj vazhdimisht edhe k\u00ebta q\u00eb moderojn\u00eb debatin, k\u00ebshtu e duhen njer\u00ebzit, e duhen me britma, e duhen me luft\u00eb, se ndryshe ndryshojn\u00eb stacionin. Pse nuk arrijm\u00eb dot,\u00a0 n\u00eb kaq shum\u00eb vite, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00ebse ka nj\u00eb nga disa aspekte q\u00eb s\u2019kan\u00eb ndryshuar, mua m\u00eb duket se kjo nuk ka ndryshuar, \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00ebsoj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb , e para nj\u00ebher\u00eb, me kultur\u00ebn e komunikimit, kultur\u00ebn e p\u00ebrgjithshme t\u00eb komunikimit t\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebrie q\u00eb e nd\u00ebrton marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien, se komunikimi \u00ebsht\u00eb relacional, \u00ebsht\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie me tjetrin dhe q\u00eb nd\u00ebrton marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie p\u00ebrmes forc\u00ebs dhe arroganc\u00ebs, pra jo p\u00ebrmes, po e themi, dialogut,\u00a0 gjuha, normalisht, q\u00eb shpreh m\u00eb shum\u00eb se \u00e7do gj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr fiks t\u00eb kultur\u00eb munges\u00eb kulture komunikimi q\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb ka t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb shum\u00eb me propagand\u00ebn q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ushtruar n\u00eb dyzet vjet. Un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb arroganca, se thelbi i propagand\u00ebs totalitare komuniste, fashiste, naziste, e tjer\u00eb e tjer\u00eb, kush \u00ebsht\u00eb? Shpalle tjetrin armik.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: E pastaj?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> dhe n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb thot\u00eb di\u00e7ka, mos u merr me iden\u00eb, po merru me personin, diskredito personin dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb teknika e propagand\u00ebs, \u00ebsht\u00eb teknika m\u00eb banale e propagand\u00ebs dhe m\u00eb e r\u00ebndomt\u00eb m\u00eb shpesh. Madje, po s\u2019pate armik, duhet ta shpik\u00ebsh armikun, sepse gjuha e propagand\u00ebs nuk funksionon ndryshe dhe mendoj q\u00eb ne n\u00eb sistemet e edukimit, nj\u00eb nga problemet q\u00eb kemi, n\u00eb sistemet e edukimit ne nuk kemi arritur q\u00eb ta ndryshojm\u00eb n\u00eb thelb k\u00ebt\u00eb kultur\u00eb komunikimi.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0 nuk mendon ti q\u00eb diga e madhe q\u00eb e ka pengu transformimin, sepse nuk se nuk mund ta themi q\u00eb, p\u00ebr shembull, n\u00eb familje, n\u00eb rrethet shoq\u00ebrore po edhe .. ne ishim t\u00eb d\u00ebnuar t\u00eb ishim k\u00ebshtu p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb asaj kohe, po nuk mendon q\u00eb diga m\u00eb e madhe q\u00eb ka pengu ujin t\u00eb rrjedh\u00eb dhe e ka vazhduar akumulimin, ka qen\u00eb pik\u00ebrisht shembulli q\u00eb ka v\u00ebn\u00eb njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb kan\u00eb pas ekran, q\u00eb kan\u00eb pasur kamera p\u00ebrpara, q\u00eb kam pasur mikrofon p\u00ebrpara dhe gjith\u00eb gjenerimi ose mbajtja e gjall\u00eb e asaj propagande dhe e asaj m\u00ebnyre t\u00eb trajtuarit t\u00eb kund\u00ebrshtarit p\u00ebrmes forcave politike m\u00eb pas ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb fakt gjeneratori i k\u00ebsaj dhe q\u00eb e ka b\u00ebr\u00eb perpetum k\u00ebt\u00eb pun\u00eb q\u00eb \u201cBjeri tjetrit se k\u00ebshtu del m\u00eb mir\u00eb\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Shiko, un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Se sistemi i edukimit \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb okej. Po n\u00eb fund, njer\u00ebzit ndjekin heronjt\u00eb q\u00eb shfaqen n\u00ebp\u00ebr televizor\u00eb.\u00a0 Edhe tani,\u00a0 n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb aspekt mendoj q\u00eb kjo ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb dig\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dig\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> por un\u00eb prap\u00eb nuk mendoj q\u00eb jan\u00eb mediat\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Jo, jo, flas p\u00ebr njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb\u2026 Jo, flas n\u00eb radh\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb p\u00ebr ata q\u00eb jan\u00eb\u2026 un\u00eb mendoj\u2026 Flasim ndonj\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb p\u00ebr ne q\u00eb jemi n\u00eb Parlament.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong> Un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb partit\u00eb politike partit\u00eb politike jan\u00eb kultivuese qysh n\u00eb n\u00ebnt\u00ebdhjet\u00ebn. Mbaj mend dikur p\u00ebr shembull nj\u00eb rast se si ndryshonin raportet p\u00ebr personin, kur po themi mbi baz\u00ebn e nj\u00eb lloj logjike propagande. N\u00eb \u201891 doli nj\u00eb her\u00eb sikur Alfred U\u00e7i kishte kaluar te PD-ja, e q\u00eb ishte ai q\u00eb po kalonin intelektual\u00eb t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm e tjer\u00eb. Dhe at\u00eb dit\u00eb Z\u00ebri i Popullit doli, se at\u00ebher\u00eb lexonim edhe Z\u00ebrin e Popullit edhe RD edhe q\u00eb ishin ato kat\u00ebr pes\u00eb gazeta q\u00eb ekzistonin, e sulmoi Alfred U\u00e7in e b\u00ebri rezil, po dukej p\u00ebrmend gjith\u00e7ka. Mbas tre dit\u00ebve, si duket, ky u thot\u00eb atyre q\u00eb, \u201cOre po s\u2019kam ikur un\u00eb pse po m\u00eb sulmoni\u201d.\u00a0 Pas tre dit\u00ebve \u201cIntelektuali i madh, nga universiteti i shquar e tjer\u00eb e tjer\u00eb\u201d.\u00a0 Dhe, logjika po ta shikosh, partit\u00eb politike kan\u00eb qen\u00eb bart\u00ebse t\u00eb k\u00ebtij mentaliteti. Kuptohet, duke mos pasur edhe, duke mos qen\u00eb edhe profesionist, n\u00eb kuptimin, po themi, n\u00eb qoft\u00eb se\u00a0 mund t\u00eb quhet, politika profesionist por quhet, duke mos qen\u00eb dhe profesionist\u00eb dhe duke mos ditur, si me th\u00ebn\u00eb, ta orientojn\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb shqiptare dhe duke qen\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb sigurt q\u00eb publiku, militant\u00ebt e k\u00ebrkojn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb gjuh\u00eb dhe gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e leht\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb? T\u2019u jap\u00ebsh militant\u00ebve at\u00eb gj\u00eb q\u00eb duan, mban\u00eb at\u00eb pjes\u00ebn e ngusht\u00eb, nuk hap\u00ebsh n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri, por at\u00eb e ke sigurt dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e leht\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Pra, t\u00eb prodhosh diskurs urrejtjesh \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00eb m\u00eb e leht\u00eb, mjaft po themi t\u00eb kesh nj\u00ebfar\u00eb aft\u00ebsie dhe t\u00eb zot\u00ebrosh disa fjal\u00eb, ta dish kush dhe, kjo pastaj \u00ebsht\u00eb transmetuar n\u00eb media, sepse media n\u00eb nj\u00ebfar\u00eb m\u00ebnyre ka qen\u00eb rreth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Se sistemet e edukimit jan\u00eb shum\u00eb ok, por n\u00eb fund njer\u00ebzit shohin, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb njer\u00ebzit ndjekin heronjt\u00eb q\u00eb shfaqen n\u00eb televizor. Tani n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb aspekt mendoj q\u00eb ko ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb dig\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb dig\u00eb shum\u00eb e madhe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb prap nuk mendoj q\u00eb jan\u00eb mediat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Jo, flas p\u00ebr njer\u00ebzit, flas n\u00eb radh\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb p\u00ebr ne q\u00eb jemi n\u00eb Parlament.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0Un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb partit\u00eb politike jan\u00eb kultivueset qysh n\u00eb \u201990. Mbaj mend dikur, nj\u00eb rast, se si ndryshonin raportet p\u00ebr personin, kur po themi mbani baz\u00ebn e nj\u00eb lloj logjike propagande. N\u00eb \u201991 nj\u00ebher\u00eb doli sikur Alfred U\u00e7i kishte kaluar tek PD-ja, q\u00eb po kalonin intelektual\u00eb t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm. E at\u00eb dit\u00eb, Z\u00ebri I popullit, se at\u00ebher\u00eb lexonim dhe Z\u00ebrin e Popullit dhe RD-n\u00eb dhe ato 4-5 gazeta q\u00eb ekzistonin, e sulmoi Alfred U\u00e7i, e b\u00ebri rezil, duke i p\u00ebrmendur gjith\u00e7ka. Mbas 3 dit\u00ebve, si duke ky u thot\u00eb, ore nuk kam ikur un\u00eb, pse po m\u00eb sulmoni? Mbas 3 dit\u00ebve, \u201cintelektualit i madh, personaliteti i shquar\u201d, etj. E logjika, po ta shikosh, partit\u00eb politike kan\u00eb qen\u00eb mbart\u00ebse t\u00eb k\u00ebtij mentaliteti, kuptohet duke mos qen\u00eb dhe profesioniste, n\u00eb kuptimin po themi n\u00ebse mund t\u00eb quhet politika profesion, por quhet. Duke mos ditur ta orientojn\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb shqiptare dhe duke qen\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb sigurt q\u00eb publiku, militant\u00ebt e k\u00ebrkojn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb gjuh\u00eb, e gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e leht\u00eb \u00e7far\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb? Tu jap\u00ebsh militant\u00ebve at\u00eb q\u00eb duan, mban pjes\u00ebn e ngusht\u00eb, nuk hapesh n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri, por at\u00eb e ke t\u00eb sigurt dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e leht\u00eb, pra t\u00eb prodhosh diskurs urrejtje \u00ebsht\u00eb gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e leht\u00eb. Mjafton t\u00eb zot\u00ebrosh disa fjal\u00eb. Kjo pastaj \u00ebsht\u00eb transmetuar n\u00eb media sepse media n\u00eb nj\u00eb far\u00eb m\u00ebnyre ka qen\u00eb refleksion i politik\u00ebs p\u00ebr m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn si \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrit\u00eb n\u00eb tranzicion, sistemet mikse apo profilet demokratike q\u00eb jan\u00eb sistemet e periudhave t\u00eb para q\u00eb dalin nga regjimet totalitare, pastaj p\u00ebrdorimet e ndryshme, p\u00ebrdorimet ordinere, nuk flas p\u00ebr strategji komunikimi. T\u00eb gjitha k\u00ebto kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb q\u00eb e vetmja form\u00eb komunikimi t\u00eb jet\u00eb kjo e ti t\u00eb quhesh si tradhtar i klanit t\u00ebnd politik, por pak n\u00eb kuptim negativ, n\u00ebse ti nuk e diskrediton kund\u00ebrshtarin, n\u00ebse nuk e konsideron armik e n\u00ebse nuk shpif ndaj kund\u00ebrshtarit. Kompromisaxhi, tradhtar e t\u00eb tjera. E k\u00ebshtu \u00ebsht\u00eb krijuar kjo kultur\u00eb dhe \u00ebsht\u00eb kultivuar mendoj un\u00eb qoft\u00eb dhe p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb paaft\u00ebsis\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb prodhuar nj\u00eb debat konstruktiv, se t\u00eb marr\u00ebsh pjes\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb debat konstruktiv do t\u00eb thot\u00eb t\u00eb prodhosh narrativ\u00eb, do t\u00eb thot\u00eb t\u00eb shkosh thell\u00eb, do t\u00eb thot\u00eb ta pranosh gj\u00ebn\u00eb e tjetrit, t\u00eb relativizosh veten, pra nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e kollajt\u00eb t\u00eb ish njeri n\u00eb kuptimin human, \u00ebsht\u00eb sip\u00ebrmarrje e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb t\u00eb jesh njeri e t\u00eb mbetesh njeri n\u00eb komunikim dhe mendoj q\u00eb dhe dehumanizimi. Shoq\u00ebria shqiptare \u00ebsht\u00eb dehumanizuar. Un\u00eb sot kisha nj\u00eb ngjarje po themi, kishim t\u00eb ftuar nj\u00eb ish t\u00eb burgosur politik, q\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb nga protagonist\u00ebt, para student\u00ebve q\u00eb po fliste p\u00ebr revolt\u00ebn. M\u00ebnyra se si fliste m\u00eb b\u00ebri shum\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypje, q\u00eb e kam ndeshur dhe tek n\u00ebna ime q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb internim por dhe tek At Zef Pllumi. Ai fliste p\u00ebr persona t\u00eb cil\u00ebt normalisht i kishin marr\u00eb gjysm\u00ebn e jet\u00ebs n\u00ebp\u00ebr burgje, fliste nga nj\u00eb pozit\u00eb gati neutrale. Kishte m\u00eb pak urrejtje dhe nj\u00eb gjuh\u00eb q\u00eb po ta paragjykoje, por prit, se ky sa i but me komunizmin, pro n\u00eb fakt ishte shum\u00eb njer\u00ebzore se ai ishte futur n\u00eb burg e kishte mbetur njeri aty n\u00eb burg, kishte turp q\u00eb t\u00eb thoshte, ishte filan polic burgu q\u00eb erdhi e m\u00eb tha mos e b\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb se do ta p\u00ebsosh. Ai ishte xhelat n\u00eb kuptim, por ishte dhe njeri.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeministri Edi Rama<\/strong>: Ma ka zgjidhur k\u00ebt\u00eb mister shum\u00eb vite m\u00eb p\u00ebrpara, nj\u00eb intelektual i famsh\u00ebm polak kur i pata th\u00ebn\u00eb pik\u00ebrisht k\u00ebt\u00eb gj\u00eb, n\u00eb \u201992 ndoshta. Ore si e shpjegon ti q\u00eb k\u00eb takoj t\u00eb burgosur politik q\u00eb realisht ka qen\u00eb thell\u00eb n\u00eb ferr, nuk ka urrejtje? Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb q\u00eb gjuha e urrejt\u00ebs po e mbyt fare gjith\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb. M\u00eb tha, po ky \u00ebsht\u00eb lakmuesi. Kush prezantohet si i burgosur politik ose i p\u00ebrndjekur dhe nuk ka urrejtje, \u00ebsht\u00eb i v\u00ebrtet\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb real. Kush prezantohet si i till\u00eb dhe ka urrejtje, se nuk ka qen\u00eb i p\u00ebrndjekur, ose ka qen\u00eb spiun. Tani, mund t\u00eb vazhdojm\u00eb shum\u00eb gjat\u00eb por mendoj q\u00eb i kemi tejkaluar t\u00eb gjitha minutat. N\u00ebse ke ndonj\u00eb pyetje t\u00eb fundit p\u00ebr mua, un\u00eb e mir\u00ebpres, n\u00ebse do ta l\u00ebm\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb her\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, e l\u00ebm\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb her\u00eb tjet\u00ebr. Nuk t\u00eb kufizoj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0Gj\u00ebja m\u00eb e mir\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb mos zgjas\u00ebsh gj\u00ebrat, t\u00eb nd\u00ebrpres\u00ebsh aty ku duhet. Jo, nj\u00eb shqet\u00ebsim q\u00eb vjen nga ambienti profesional. Koleg\u00eb kam dy n\u00eb fakt q\u00eb do doja t\u2019i thoja. E para, raportet me median, nj\u00eb lloj agresiviteti diskursiv flas nga medias, p\u00ebrpjekje p\u00ebr t\u00eb de legjitimuar mediat si aktor\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm p\u00ebr transparenc\u00ebn e qytetareve, informimin etj. Nga vjen dhe a i ke b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb analiz\u00eb? \u00cbsht\u00eb tem\u00eb shum\u00eb e gjat\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeminsitri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0E para nj\u00ebher\u00eb un\u00eb e shoh n\u00eb vazhdim\u00ebsi, jo se ma b\u00ebre ti k\u00ebt\u00eb pyetje, se e v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb prej shum\u00eb koh\u00ebsh jam t\u00ebrhequr nga kjo. P\u00ebrpiqem maksimalisht q\u00eb t\u00eb jem disponib\u00ebl por kjo mesa duket \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb njoll\u00eb q\u00eb m\u00eb ka ngelur. E kam menduar nga vjen dhe besoj q\u00eb nuk gaboj kur mendoj q\u00eb p\u00ebr mua ka qen\u00eb e pamundur ose nuk kam qen\u00eb i aft\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb ndaj njeriun q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb an\u00eb p\u00ebr shum\u00eb vite e q\u00eb i ka b\u00ebr\u00eb ato luft\u00ebrat e veta si ka ditur, si ka mundur, por i ka b\u00ebr\u00eb, me njeriun q\u00eb duke qen\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb an\u00eb duhet t\u00eb rrij\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb an\u00eb e t\u00eb mos b\u00ebj\u00eb kompetentin dhe p\u00ebr an\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr, pavar\u00ebsisht se mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb si t\u00eb thuash ai konflikti n\u00eb objekt brenda meje q\u00eb gjat\u00eb gjith\u00eb koh\u00ebs un\u00eb e kam pasur t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb ta menaxhoj me sa kuptoj.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">E dyta, q\u00eb un\u00eb jam tip shum\u00eb i dh\u00ebn\u00eb pas argumentit e dua patjet\u00ebr t\u00eb nxjerr veten fitues n\u00eb nj\u00eb debat mir\u00ebpo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e arsyeshme t\u00eb angazhohesh me mediat n\u00eb debat, sepse mund t\u00eb angazhohesh sa t\u00eb duash kur nuk je n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pozicion. Kur je n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pozicion \u00ebsht\u00eb e pamundur q\u00eb t\u00eb t\u00eb thuash, ti merru me argumentin, mos u merr, se un\u00eb jam kryeminist\u00ebr, sepse gjithsesi tjetri ndihet vetvetiu i trysnuar nga ajo \u00e7far\u00eb ti p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebson. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb jam p\u00ebrpjekur t\u00eb korrigjohem sa mundem, por njolla m\u00eb ka mbetur, nuk e di.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark Marku:<\/strong>\u00a0Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb ka shpres\u00eb p\u00ebr zgjidhje p\u00ebrfundimtare.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kryeminsitri Edi Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Po t\u2019i v\u00ebsh nj\u00eb studenti nj\u00eb punim q\u00eb ndiqe pak e shihe sasin\u00eb e kund\u00ebrv\u00ebnieve, goditjeve n\u00eb vite t\u00eb k\u00ebtij zot\u00ebris\u00eb q\u00eb ka 10 vjet q\u00eb nuk po na ndahet, do shoh\u00ebsh q\u00eb t\u00eb dh\u00ebnat do jen\u00eb n\u00eb p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsim t\u00eb vazhduesh\u00ebm n\u00eb aspektin e asaj q\u00eb ti je i interesuar, por problem. E di q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb problem. Megjithat\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e sigurt q\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb, n\u00eb asnj\u00eb rast nuk shkon p\u00ebrtej atij momenti, pra nuk ndodh q\u00eb nj\u00eb goditje, nj\u00eb reagim, ishte nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb n\u00eb mandatin e shkuar ku un\u00eb i b\u00ebra kazan t\u00eb gjith\u00eb, por p\u00ebrtej atij momenti nuk shoq\u00ebrohej me asnj\u00eb ushtrim abuziv mos tejkalim t\u00eb forc\u00ebs duke p\u00ebrdorur pushtetin p\u00ebr t\u2019i shkuar nga mbrapa asnj\u00ebrit e tjetrit apo p\u00ebr t\u00eb ngacmuar larg qoft\u00eb nj\u00ebrin e tjetrin. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb pak por e sigurt\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">T\u00eb falenderoj shum\u00eb Mark Marku dhe ishte k\u00ebnaq\u00ebsi. Ky ishte Mark Marku si\u00e7 un\u00eb nuk e kisha par\u00eb se nuk na kishte ndodhur ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb. Si\u00e7 disa nga ju e kan\u00eb par\u00eb e disa jo, por m\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishmja, ky ishte fundi i nj\u00eb bisede q\u00eb mbase ndihmon t\u00eb gjith\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb kuptojn\u00eb q\u00eb ata q\u00eb merren me politik\u00eb, gjithsesi jan\u00eb njer\u00ebzi. Faleminderit!<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ish-deputeti i Partis\u00eb Demokratike dhe pedagogu i Fakultetit t\u00eb Gazetaris\u00eb n\u00eb Universitetin e Tiran\u00ebs Mark Marku ka qen\u00eb dit\u00ebn e sotme n\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebbisedim me kryeministrin Edi Rama n\u00eb podcastin e tij javor \u201cFlasim\u201d. 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