{"id":550172,"date":"2022-09-20T10:12:09","date_gmt":"2022-09-20T08:12:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/?p=550172"},"modified":"2022-09-20T10:14:48","modified_gmt":"2022-09-20T08:14:48","slug":"rama-per-der-spiegel-irani-synoi-te-shkaterronte-te-gjitha-sherbimet-dixhitale-por-demi-u-zvogelua-nga-ekspertet-tane-e-ata-amerikane","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/2022\/09\/20\/rama-per-der-spiegel-irani-synoi-te-shkaterronte-te-gjitha-sherbimet-dixhitale-por-demi-u-zvogelua-nga-ekspertet-tane-e-ata-amerikane\/","title":{"rendered":"Rama p\u00ebr ‘Der Spiegel’: Irani synoi t\u00eb shkat\u00ebrronte t\u00eb gjitha sh\u00ebrbimet dixhitale, arrit\u00ebm ta zvog\u00eblojm\u00eb d\u00ebmin","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

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\u2018Ne jemi evropian\u00eb dhe duam t\u00eb jemi pjes\u00eb e BE-s\u00eb\u2019<\/em>, deklaroi kryeministri Edi Rama n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr Susanne Koelbl dhe Walter Mayr t\u00eb gazet\u00ebs s\u00eb njohur gjermane \u201cDer Spiegel\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

Kryeministri Edi Rama ka folur p\u00ebr sulmin kibernetik iranian kund\u00ebr Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb, d\u00ebshir\u00ebs p\u00ebr an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimin n\u00eb BE dhe rekomandimin se pse Shqip\u00ebria duhet t\u00eb jet\u00eb nj\u00eb parajs\u00eb p\u00ebr pensionist\u00ebt gjerman\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Zoti kryeminist\u00ebr, Shqip\u00ebria nd\u00ebrpreu marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet diplomatike me Iranin pak dit\u00eb m\u00eb par\u00eb. Diplomat\u00ebt kishin vet\u00ebm 24 or\u00eb koh\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u2019u larguar nga vendi. \u00c7far\u00eb fshihet pas k\u00ebsaj?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama<\/span>: Irani sulmoi vendin ton\u00eb me nj\u00eb sulm masiv kibernetik. Q\u00ebllimi ishte t\u00eb shkat\u00ebrroheshin t\u00eb gjitha sh\u00ebrbimet digjitale t\u00eb qeveris\u00eb q\u00eb ne kemi nd\u00ebrtuar me shum\u00eb mund p\u00ebrgjat\u00eb shum\u00eb viteve. Fal\u00eb specialist\u00ebve tan\u00eb t\u00eb IT-s\u00eb, ekspert\u00ebve nga Microsoft dhe qeveria amerikane, ne arrit\u00ebm t\u00eb zvog\u00eblojm\u00eb d\u00ebmin.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Sfondi i sulmit \u00ebsht\u00eb, me sa duket, prania e disa mij\u00ebra an\u00ebtar\u00ebve t\u00eb opozit\u00ebs iraniane, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt po punojn\u00eb aktivisht p\u00ebr ndryshimin e regjimit n\u00eb Iran dhe po bashk\u00ebpunojn\u00eb me SHBA, t\u00eb ashtuquajturit Muxhahedin\u00eb t\u00eb Popullit (MEK). N\u00eb vitin 2013, vendi juaj pranoi MEK-un nga Iraku me k\u00ebrkes\u00eb t\u00eb Uashingtonit. Do t\u00eb parap\u00eblqenit q\u00eb t\u00eb largoheshit sot nga ky grupim?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Jo, Shqip\u00ebria ka nj\u00eb tradit\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u2019u krenuar p\u00ebr t\u00eb strehuar njer\u00ebzit n\u00eb rrezik. Dhe aleanca jon\u00eb strategjike me SHBA-n\u00eb nuk mund t\u00eb n\u00ebnkuptoj\u00eb thjesht se Uashingtoni ka gjithmon\u00eb mb\u00ebshtetjen ton\u00eb. Ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb duhet ta ndihmojm\u00eb edhe SHBA-n\u00eb. Shqiptar\u00ebt u detyrohen shum\u00eb amerikan\u00ebve.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> Lufta n\u00eb Ukrain\u00eb ka ndryshuar bot\u00ebn dhe tani po k\u00ebrc\u00ebnon paqen e brisht\u00eb n\u00eb Ballkanin Per\u00ebndimor. Sa e thell\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo ndarje?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Shum\u00eb e thell\u00eb. M\u00eb shum\u00eb se 80 p\u00ebr qind e serb\u00ebve mendojn\u00eb pozitivisht se si Putin po kund\u00ebrshton aktualisht Per\u00ebndimin, por n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri popullariteti i tij \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb pak se nj\u00eb p\u00ebr qind. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb rezultati i nj\u00eb sondazhi t\u00eb kryer nga qeveria jon\u00eb, menj\u00ebher\u00eb pas fillimit t\u00eb luft\u00ebs. Ndikimi i Mosk\u00ebs n\u00eb Serbi \u00ebsht\u00eb i fort\u00eb, n\u00eb pjes\u00ebn serbe t\u00eb Bosnje-Hercegovin\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb madje shum\u00eb i fort\u00eb. Rusia ka shum\u00eb ndikim te serb\u00ebt. Duhet t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb vet\u00ebdijsh\u00ebm se ky ndikim mund t\u00eb shnd\u00ebrrohet n\u00eb di\u00e7ka t\u00eb tmerrshme.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: P\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00eb duhet t\u00eb jemi t\u00eb p\u00ebrgatitur?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span>Putini do t\u00eb ishte i g\u00ebzuar n\u00ebse do t\u00eb kishte nj\u00eb konflikt diku n\u00eb Ballkan. Shefi i Kremlinit ngacmon dhe provokon kudo q\u00eb t\u00eb mundet. N\u00eb fjalimet e tij, Putin vazhdimisht i referohet Kosov\u00ebs, problemit m\u00eb t\u00eb dhimbsh\u00ebm nga problemet e pazgjidhura n\u00eb Ballkan. Duhet t\u00eb parandalojm\u00eb me \u00e7do kusht q\u00eb t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb di\u00e7ka e keqe.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: \u00c7far\u00eb k\u00ebshilloni ju?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Nuk mund t\u00eb k\u00ebrkosh shum\u00eb nga Beogradi tani. Gjith\u00e7ka mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrmbyset. Serbia, p\u00ebr shembull, nuk mund t\u00eb sanksionoj\u00eb Rusin\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Putinit i p\u00eblqen t\u00eb p\u00ebrdor\u00eb historin\u00eb e Kosov\u00ebs si shabllon p\u00ebr pushtimin e Krimes\u00eb, Donjetskut dhe Luhanskut. A ka ai si pik\u00eb faktet q\u00eb NATO bombardoi Beogradin dhe pushtoi Kosov\u00ebn pa mandat t\u00eb OKB-s\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Arsyeja e vetme q\u00eb nuk kishte mandat ishte se Rusia dhe Kina votuan kund\u00ebr.\u00a0 Aneksimi i Krimes\u00eb ndjek nj\u00eb model imperialist, si sulmi ndaj Ukrain\u00ebs, nj\u00eb vend sovran dhe demokratik. Bombardimi i Beogradit dhe \u00e7lirimi i Kosov\u00ebs n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb, nga ana tjet\u00ebr, i sh\u00ebrbeu q\u00ebllimit p\u00ebr t\u00eb shp\u00ebtuar popullsin\u00eb nga spastrimi etnik. Dhe Gjykata Nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare e Drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb m\u00eb n\u00eb fund konfirmoi pavar\u00ebsin\u00eb e Kosov\u00ebs si akt t\u00eb s\u00eb drejt\u00ebs nd\u00ebrkomb\u00ebtare.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: A ka ndryshuar asgj\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb n\u00eb Ballkanin Per\u00ebndimor n\u00eb nj\u00ebzet vitet e fundit?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Ballkani ka qen\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb nj\u00eb vend i tensionuar, ai \u00ebsht\u00eb i brisht\u00eb. Por, un\u00eb pretendoj se situata \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e mir\u00eb sot se n\u00eb \u00e7do koh\u00eb tjet\u00ebr.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Si mund t\u00eb p\u00ebrcaktohet kjo?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Me gjith\u00eb mosmarr\u00ebveshjet, gjasht\u00eb krer\u00ebt e qeverive t\u00eb Ballkanit Per\u00ebndimor kan\u00eb r\u00ebn\u00eb dakord q\u00eb nga nj\u00eb takim n\u00eb Berlin n\u00eb 2014 se ne duhet ta kthejm\u00eb rrjedh\u00ebn e historis\u00eb s\u00eb bashku. Duhen hapa t\u00eb vegj\u00ebl p\u00ebr t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtuar nj\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe, ashtu si gjerman\u00ebt dhe francez\u00ebt l\u00ebviz\u00ebn ngadal\u00eb drejt paqes s\u00eb plot\u00eb pas Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Dyt\u00eb Bot\u00ebrore.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: A vlen kjo edhe p\u00ebr marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnien tuaj me presidentin e Serbis\u00eb Aleksandar Vu\u00e7i\u00e7?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Absolutisht. Historia e shqiptar\u00ebve dhe e serb\u00ebve \u00ebsht\u00eb histori dhimbjeje dhe gjaku. Por, kur u zgjodha kryeminist\u00ebr, vendosa t\u00eb shkoj n\u00eb Beograd. Vizita ime n\u00eb vitin 2014 ishte e para e nj\u00eb kreu t\u00eb qeveris\u00eb shqiptare n\u00eb Serbi pas 68 vjet\u00ebsh. Dhe pastaj Vu\u00e7i\u00e7 erdhi n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb. Kjo tregon se sa larg kemi arritur.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: A ka ndonj\u00eb shpres\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb marr\u00ebveshje p\u00ebr \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e Kosov\u00ebs?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> P\u0115r Kosov\u00ebn ram\u00eb dakord q\u00eb nuk do t\u00eb pajtoheshim. Mendoj se Serbia duhet ta njoh\u00eb Kosov\u00ebn. Por, Aleksandar Vu\u00e7i\u00e7 nuk mund ta b\u00ebj\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb. Por, t\u00eb pakt\u00ebn mund t\u00eb flasim p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb tem\u00eb. Dhe ne bashk\u00ebpunojm\u00eb n\u00eb projekte si ai i Ballkanit t\u00eb Hapur.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Nj\u00eb lloj miniSchengeni mes Maqedonis\u00eb s\u00eb Veriut, Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe Serbis\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span>\u00a0 Po, ku jan\u00eb t\u00eb ftuar edhe t\u00eb gjitha shtetet e tjera t\u00eb Ballkanit. Vu\u00e7i\u00e7 ka pranuar k\u00ebshtu kufirin mes Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb dhe Kosov\u00ebs. Nj\u00eb hap i madh p\u00ebrpara dhe nj\u00eb arritje v\u00ebrtet e madhe politike.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Vet\u00ebm Kosova nuk merr pjes\u00eb. Pse kryeministri Albin Kurti \u00ebsht\u00eb kund\u00ebr projektit ballkanik?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Kurti thot\u00eb se serb\u00ebt duhet s\u00eb pari t\u00eb k\u00ebrkojn\u00eb falje p\u00ebr at\u00eb q\u00eb u kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebve. Dhe un\u00eb i them po, Serbia duhet t\u00eb k\u00ebrkoj\u00eb falje. Pyetja e vetme \u00ebsht\u00eb kur? Un\u00eb mendoj se falja do t\u00eb vij\u00eb kur dialogu t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb. Willy Brandt nuk u gjunj\u00ebzua as n\u00eb vitin 1946. Ai u gjunj\u00ebzua n\u00eb Varshav\u00eb vet\u00ebm n\u00eb vitin 1970. Jeta jon\u00eb politike mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb e polarizuar sot, shpesh nuk mund t\u00eb biem dakord as p\u00ebr motin k\u00ebtu. Por, kur b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimin n\u00eb Bashkimin Evropian, ka konsensus absolut.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: A mund t\u00eb sh\u00ebrohet trauma e luft\u00ebrave jugosllave?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Duhen hapa t\u00eb vegj\u00ebl p\u00ebr t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtuar nj\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie m\u00eb t\u00eb madhe, ashtu si gjerman\u00ebt dhe francez\u00ebt kaluan ngadal\u00eb drejt paqes s\u00eb plot\u00eb pas Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Dyt\u00eb Bot\u00ebrore. Open Balkan \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb platform\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb dhe mendoj se v\u00ebllai im Albin Kurti duhet t\u00eb p\u00ebrballet me serb\u00ebt atje. Por, ai e l\u00eb mund\u00ebsin\u00eb t\u00eb kaloj\u00eb. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb ardhur keq.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Ashtu si Shqip\u00ebria, edhe Serbia po p\u00ebrpiqet t\u00eb an\u00ebtar\u00ebsohet n\u00eb Bashkimin Evropian. Megjithat\u00eb, Beogradi vazhdon t\u00eb blej\u00eb gaz dhe arm\u00eb nga Rusia. A mund t\u00eb ket\u00eb sukses nj\u00eb akt i till\u00eb balancues n\u00eb planin afatgjat\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Serbia ndjek tradit\u00ebn e politik\u00ebs s\u00eb jashtme t\u00eb Jugosllavis\u00eb komuniste t\u00eb paangazhuar, d\u00ebshiron t\u00eb jet\u00eb e mir\u00ebpritur n\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb bot\u00ebn, n\u00eb Uashington dhe n\u00eb Bruksel, n\u00eb Pekin dhe n\u00eb Mosk\u00eb. Kur b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr gazin rus, m\u00eb duhet t\u00eb them se serb\u00ebt jan\u00eb n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri t\u00eb mir\u00eb!<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Nga erdhi uniteti?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> E gjith\u00eb historia jon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb formuar nga regjime dhe perandori q\u00eb nuk i kemi zgjedhur ne, nga osman\u00ebt, komunist\u00ebt, mbret\u00ebrit\u00eb, sistemet totalitare. Ne kemi qen\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb t\u00eb detyruar. BE do t\u00eb thot\u00eb nj\u00eb zgjedhje e lir\u00eb p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> Pra, pse Shqip\u00ebria nuk po b\u00ebn ende ndonj\u00eb p\u00ebrparim t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm me reformat, 30 vjet pas p\u00ebrfundimit t\u00eb diktatur\u00ebs, n\u00eb drejtim t\u00eb qeverisjes, luft\u00ebs kund\u00ebr korrupsionit dhe reform\u00ebs n\u00eb drejt\u00ebsi?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> K\u00ebtu duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra q\u00eb nuk i kemi pasur kurr\u00eb. Shqiptar\u00ebt nuk kan\u00eb pasur kurr\u00eb nj\u00eb gjyq\u00ebsor t\u00eb pavarur nga politika. Nuk kemi pasur kurr\u00eb nj\u00eb shtet me tradit\u00eb solide. N\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit, ne ishim nj\u00eb diktatur\u00eb e izoluar, Koreja e Veriut e Evrop\u00ebs, ku ishte ende e rrezikshme t\u00eb d\u00ebgjoje \u2018Beatles\u2019 n\u00eb fund t\u00eb viteve 1980. Prandaj pretendoj se n\u00eb terma absolut\u00eb kemi arritur n\u00eb k\u00ebto 30 vite m\u00eb shum\u00eb se \u00e7do vend tjet\u00ebr n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: N\u00eb \u00e7do rast, nuk thuhet se keni munges\u00eb vet\u00ebbesimi?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Imagjinoni ku ishim n\u00eb fund t\u00eb diktatur\u00ebs, jepeshin kat\u00ebr kilogram\u00eb mish p\u00ebr familje n\u00eb muaj. N\u00eb or\u00ebn nj\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebngjesit, njer\u00ebzit viheshin n\u00eb radh\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb shishe qum\u00ebsht. Dhe shikoni numrin e madh t\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebve q\u00eb pushojn\u00eb sot jasht\u00eb vendit apo makinat n\u00eb rrug\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Ne shohim shum\u00eb makina t\u00eb reja, p\u00ebrfshir\u00eb nj\u00eb num\u00ebr t\u00eb madh\u00a0 Mercedes\u00ebsh t\u00eb zinj. N\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb, pes\u00eb p\u00ebr qind e shqiptar\u00ebve ende nuk kan\u00eb ushqim t\u00eb mjaftuesh\u00ebm. Mbi t\u00eb gjitha, kjo duket si nj\u00eb pabarazi e madhe.<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Nuk po vdes askush k\u00ebtu, por sidoqoft\u00eb ka varf\u00ebri. Deri tani nuk kemi arritur ta fusim ekonomin\u00eb ton\u00eb n\u00eb rrug\u00ebn e duhur. Shumica e transaksioneve ende shlyhen me para n\u00eb dor\u00eb. Emigrant\u00ebt d\u00ebrgojn\u00eb para\u2019 nga e gjith\u00eb bota dhe legalizimi i k\u00ebtyre parave \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb sfid\u00eb p\u00ebr ne edhe n\u00ebse ato nuk vijn\u00eb nga aktiviteti kriminal.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb, njer\u00ebzit po ikin masivisht, sidomos n\u00eb Gjermani. A nuk mund t\u2019i bindni qytetar\u00ebt tuaj t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtonin ekonomin\u00eb shqiptare k\u00ebtu?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Si mund t\u2019i ndaloj un\u00eb si qeveri e nj\u00eb vendi n\u00eb zhvillim, kur vendi m\u00eb i zhvilluar i Evrop\u00ebs \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb or\u00eb e gjysm\u00eb larg? 50 000 portugez\u00eb largohen nga vendi i tyre \u00e7do vit, 500 000 kroat\u00eb jan\u00eb larguar nga vendi i tyre q\u00eb kur vendi u bashkua me BE.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Edhe njer\u00ebzit po ikin sepse shteti nuk u ka ofruar asgj\u00eb. Edhe nj\u00eb vizit\u00eb te mjeku duhet t\u00eb sigurohet me ryshfet. Nuk mund ta eliminoni at\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Administrata jon\u00eb tashm\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00ebr\u00ebsisht e dixhitalizuar p\u00ebr ta b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb pamundur korrupsionin. Ju lutemi regjistrojeni edhe nj\u00eb progres t\u00eb till\u00eb! Nj\u00eb sistem i rr\u00ebnjosur \u00ebsht\u00eb i v\u00ebshtir\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u2019u thyer. P\u00ebrqafoni drejtimin pa rripa sigurimi. N\u00eb Gjermani, nj\u00eb shqiptar futet n\u00eb nj\u00eb makin\u00eb dhe sigurisht lidh rripin e sigurimit. Pse? Sepse ka nj\u00eb ligj q\u00eb askush nuk e kund\u00ebrshton.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: N\u00eb nj\u00eb vend me nj\u00eb popullsi prej vet\u00ebm 2,8 milion\u00eb banor\u00ebsh, kjo luft\u00eb duhet t\u00eb fitohet me pak vullnet apo jo?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Vendet e vogla nuk jan\u00eb m\u00eb pak t\u00eb nd\u00ebrlikuara se ato t\u00eb m\u00ebdha. N\u00eb fund t\u00eb fundit, ne t\u00eb gjith\u00eb jemi t\u00eb lidhur k\u00ebtu. Kush\u00ebrinjt\u00eb duhet t\u00eb gjykojn\u00eb kush\u00ebrinjt\u00eb dhe kush\u00ebrinjt\u00eb duhet t\u00eb vendosin kush\u00ebrinjt\u00eb e tyre n\u00eb vendin e tyre. \u00cbsht\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb vend ku gjith\u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb kaq personale.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Politika shqiptare \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebr\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb nga t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebt emra q\u00eb nga fillimi i viteve 1990: paraardh\u00ebsi juaj Sali Berisha, ish-presidenti Ilir Meta dhe Edi Rama. Jeni n\u00eb pushtet prej nj\u00eb kohe t\u00eb gjat\u00eb?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Nuk kam qen\u00eb n\u00eb politik\u00ebn shtet\u00ebrore sa dy t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt, por tani kemi nj\u00eb gjenerat\u00eb krejt t\u00eb re n\u00eb parlament dhe nj\u00eb kabinet me p\u00ebrqindjen m\u00eb t\u00eb lart\u00eb t\u00eb grave n\u00eb tabel\u00ebn e OKB. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb fakt mjaft p\u00ebrparimtare.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Ju shpesh thoni se grat\u00eb jan\u00eb m\u00eb t\u00eb mirat. \u00c7far\u00eb ju sjell n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb besim?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Jam v\u00ebrtet i bindur p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb. N\u00ebse i k\u00ebrkoni nj\u00eb mashkulli t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb nj\u00eb projekt t\u00eb caktuar, ai zakonisht thot\u00eb po, por shpesh nuk ndodh asgj\u00eb. Me nj\u00eb grua \u00ebsht\u00eb e kund\u00ebrta. Ajo heziton n\u00eb fillim, por pasi t\u00eb vendoset projekti, ajo e kryen at\u00eb me besueshm\u00ebri.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> Ndryshe nga grat\u00eb, marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnia juaj me median konsiderohet t\u00eb jet\u00eb mjaft e tensionuar. Ju p\u00eblqen t\u00eb shani gazetar\u00ebt si \u2018kazan\u00eb\u2019 dhe \u2018sharlatan\u00eb\u2019. Si p\u00ebrshtatet kjo n\u00eb nj\u00eb demokraci t\u00eb hapur?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Un\u00eb mendoj se falja do t\u00eb vij\u00eb kur dialogu t\u00eb funksionoj\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> Shqip\u00ebria ka tet\u00eb vjet q\u00eb pret negociatat e an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimit n\u00eb BE, Maqedonia e Veriut 17 vjet. Bisedimet e para m\u00eb n\u00eb fund u zhvilluan n\u00eb korrik. Sa do t\u00eb zgjas\u00eb durimi juaj?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Kur b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimin n\u00eb BE, durimi yn\u00eb nuk ka fund. Ne duam t\u00eb jemi atje. Ne jemi evropian\u00eb. Jeta jon\u00eb politike mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb e polarizuar sot, shpesh nuk mund t\u00eb biem dakord as p\u00ebr koh\u00ebn. Por, kur b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimin n\u00eb Bashkimin Evropian, ka konsensus absolut.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> P\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00eb po flisni sakt\u00ebsisht?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> S\u00eb fundmi n\u00eb \u201dGuardian\u201d u botua nj\u00eb artikull p\u00ebr nd\u00ebrtimin e shum\u00eb pallateve t\u00eb larta n\u00eb qend\u00ebr t\u00eb Tiran\u00ebs, ku pretendohej se projekti i nd\u00ebrtimit \u00ebsht\u00eb pastrim parash dhe se k\u00ebto pallate t\u00eb larta do t\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb bosh. E gjith\u00eb kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e gabuar.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: A nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e sakt\u00eb q\u00eb teatri i vjet\u00ebr komb\u00ebtar n\u00eb qend\u00ebr u shkat\u00ebrrua me nj\u00eb operacion p\u00ebr t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtuar k\u00ebto godina t\u00eb reja? Dhe, a nuk mund t\u00eb thuhej se procedurat e prishjes dhe nd\u00ebrtimit nuk ishin shum\u00eb transparente?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Jo! Po nd\u00ebrtohet nj\u00eb i ri ku u shemb teatri i vjet\u00ebr. Dhe b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr shtat\u00eb nd\u00ebrtesa t\u00eb larta. Pronar\u00ebt e ardhsh\u00ebm jan\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb biznesmen\u00eb t\u00eb njohur. Ata jan\u00eb nd\u00ebr taksapaguesit m\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdhenj n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Blerjet dhe shitjet p\u00ebrpunohen p\u00ebrmes bankave. Disa tani pretendojn\u00eb se jan\u00eb parat\u00eb e drog\u00ebs. E v\u00ebrteta \u00ebsht\u00eb se k\u00ebta persona kan\u00eb marr\u00eb kredi nga bankat p\u00ebr financim, verifikohen t\u00eb gjitha transaksionet e shitblerjes. Deklarata jon\u00eb ndoshta nuk p\u00ebrshtatet n\u00eb trendin e artikullit<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL:<\/span> P\u00ebr nd\u00ebrtimin e portit n\u00eb qytetin bregdetar jugor t\u00eb Durr\u00ebsit, ju keni fituar emirin e Abu Dabit si nd\u00ebrmjet\u00ebs p\u00ebr investitor\u00ebt arab\u00eb. \u00c7far\u00eb prisni nga kjo?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama:<\/span> Ky projekt fantastik do ta sjell\u00eb turizmin ton\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri n\u00eb majat e bot\u00ebs. Porti i vjet\u00ebr i qytetit kthehet n\u00eb nj\u00eb port turistik. P\u00ebr vite me radh\u00eb ne k\u00ebrkonim nj\u00eb investitor t\u00eb gatsh\u00ebm p\u00ebr t\u00eb investuar dy miliard\u00eb euro, por nuk mund t\u00eb gjenim nj\u00eb. Mohammed bin Zayed e mb\u00ebshtet projektin me bujari dhe ka gjetur sponsor\u00ebt.<\/span><\/p>\n

DER SPIEGEL<\/span>: Shqip\u00ebria renditet e 110-ta nga Transparency International, a mund t\u00eb na jepni tre arsye pse sip\u00ebrmarr\u00ebsit duhet t\u00eb investojn\u00eb ende k\u00ebtu?<\/span><\/p>\n

Edi Rama<\/span>: Shqip\u00ebria \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb nga vendet m\u00eb t\u00eb sigurta n\u00eb bot\u00eb. Shkalla jon\u00eb e krimit \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e mir\u00eb se Britania e Madhe, Greqia apo Italia dhe sigurisht SHBA, me nj\u00eb nga normat m\u00eb t\u00eb ul\u00ebta t\u00eb vrasjeve n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb. Industria e turizmit duhet t\u00eb investoj\u00eb sepse natyra dhe brigjet t\u00eb l\u00ebn\u00eb pa frym\u00eb. Dhe pensionist\u00ebt gjerman\u00eb duhet t\u00eb vijn\u00eb k\u00ebtu p\u00ebr t\u00eb kaluar pleq\u00ebrin\u00eb e tyre buz\u00eb detit. Sipas nj\u00eb th\u00ebnieje t\u00eb vjet\u00ebr, \u201csht\u00ebpia e shqiptarir \u00ebsht\u00eb e Zotit dhe e mikut\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

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