{"id":477209,"date":"2021-10-07T18:32:10","date_gmt":"2021-10-07T16:32:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/?p=477209"},"modified":"2021-10-07T18:32:10","modified_gmt":"2021-10-07T16:32:10","slug":"rama-intervsite-per-der-spiegel-do-marrim-deri-ne-4-mije-afgane-nuk-jemi-zhgenjyer-nga-be-ja-jemi-me-realiste","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/2021\/10\/07\/rama-intervsite-per-der-spiegel-do-marrim-deri-ne-4-mije-afgane-nuk-jemi-zhgenjyer-nga-be-ja-jemi-me-realiste\/","title":{"rendered":"Rama intervsit\u00eb p\u00ebr Der Spiegel: Do marrim deri n\u00eb 4 mij\u00eb afgan\u00eb, nuk jemi zhg\u00ebnjyer nga BE-ja, jemi m\u00eb realist\u00eb","gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"text"}]},"content":{"rendered":"

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Kryeministri Edi Rama n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr Der Spigel<\/span><\/a> ka folur p\u00ebr strehimin e afgan\u00ebve dhe integrimin n\u00eb Bashkimit Evropian.<\/span><\/p>\n

Rama thot\u00eb se n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri do strehohen deri n\u00eb 4 mij\u00eb afgan\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebt do presin marrjen e vizave p\u00ebr n\u00eb SHBA.<\/span><\/p>\n

Kryeministri duke folur p\u00ebr zgjerimin e BE-s\u00eb deklaroi se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i zhg\u00ebnjyer nga Brukseli por \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb realist mbi an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimin e zvarritur t\u00eb vendeve t\u00eb Ballkanit n\u00eb BE.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Vendi juaj \u00ebsht\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb sht\u00ebpia e afgan\u00ebve, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt kan\u00eb ikur kur taleban\u00ebt mor\u00ebn p\u00ebrs\u00ebri pushtetin, n\u00eb mes t\u00eb gushtit. Sa jan\u00eb dhe sa do t\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Tani ka rreth 1 000 afgan\u00eb dhe amerikan\u00ebt po sjellin akoma. Ne mund t\u00eb marrim deri n\u00eb 4 000. K\u00ebta njer\u00ebz ishin p\u00ebrball\u00eb taleban\u00ebve dhe u sh\u00ebrbyen trupave t\u00eb NATO-s, p\u00ebr shembull si p\u00ebrkthyes. Ne nuk duhet t\u2019i zhg\u00ebnjejm\u00eb. Ata do t\u00eb q\u00ebndrojn\u00eb derisa t\u00eb marrin viza p\u00ebr n\u00eb SHBA. Procedurat do t\u00eb marrin shum\u00eb koh\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Shqip\u00ebria nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb vendi m\u00eb i madh dhe m\u00eb i pasur n\u00eb Evrop\u00eb. Si ndodhi q\u00eb u arrit deri n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb pik\u00eb?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Fillimisht u fut\u00ebm nga organizatat joqeveritare p\u00ebr t\u2019u dh\u00ebn\u00eb ndihm\u00ebn afgan\u00ebve. Ne tham\u00eb menj\u00ebher\u00eb \u201dpo\u201d sa na u k\u00ebrkua nga qeveria amerikane. Ata ishin n\u00ebn presion sepse kishte vet\u00ebm disa vende q\u00eb donin t\u00eb merrnin refugjat\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Pse Shqip\u00ebria ra dakord?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ne nuk mund t\u00eb kishim refuzuar! Kodi i nderit i shqiptarit vjen q\u00eb nga Mesjeta. Mikpritja luan nj\u00eb rol qendror dhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb edhe sot. \u201dSht\u00ebpia juaj i p\u00ebrket Zotit dhe mikut\u201d, thot\u00eb ky kod nderi. Kjo nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr at\u00eb mik q\u00eb ju ftoni, p\u00ebr t\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ata q\u00eb ju trokasin n\u00eb der\u00eb. Tradicionalisht p\u00ebr ne e pamundur t\u00eb refuzosh ndok\u00ebnd. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb edhe arsyeja pse Shqip\u00ebria ishte vendi i vet\u00ebm pas Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Dyt\u00eb Bot\u00ebrore q\u00eb kishte m\u00eb shum\u00eb hebrenj se para fillimit t\u00eb saj.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A do t\u00eb thot\u00eb kjo se edhe popullata e mb\u00ebshtet at\u00eb? Vendimi p\u00ebr t\u00eb marr\u00eb mij\u00ebra afgan\u00eb?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ne jemi t\u00eb ndar\u00eb p\u00ebr gjith\u00e7ka n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri dhe ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb nuk pajtohemi edhe p\u00ebr faktin se sa \u00ebsht\u00eb ora. Por, partit\u00eb tona nuk ndryshojn\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje. Ne kemi pasur gjysm\u00eb milion refugjat\u00eb t\u00eb regjistruar gjat\u00eb Luft\u00ebs s\u00eb Kosov\u00ebs. N\u00eb vitet e fundit m\u00eb shum\u00eb se 3 000 iranian\u00eb erdh\u00ebn tek ne, an\u00ebtar\u00eb t\u00eb opozit\u00ebs t\u00eb cil\u00ebt ishin persekutuar brutalisht. Ne jemi si afgan\u00ebt, por afgan\u00ebt e Evrop\u00ebs. Vendi yn\u00eb ishte plot\u00ebsisht i izoluar n\u00ebn regjimin e Enver Hoxh\u00ebs, madje as pjes\u00eb e Traktatit t\u00eb Varshav\u00ebs. Te pika e kthes\u00ebs, t\u00eb gjitha institucionet u rr\u00ebzuan dhe vendi ishte si n\u00eb luft\u00eb civile. N\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb shum\u00eb anije u mbush\u00ebn me njer\u00ebz dhe u nis\u00ebn drejt Italis\u00eb. Ne e kemi p\u00ebrjetuar t\u00eb qenit refugjat\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: N\u00eb vendet e tjera evropiane politikat e migrimit jan\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb diskutueshme, ekziston frik\u00eb nga refugjat\u00ebt q\u00eb jan\u00eb karburanti i partive populiste t\u00eb krahut t\u00eb djatht\u00eb. Pra, a jan\u00eb shqiptar\u00ebt imun\u00eb ndaj pak\u00ebnaq\u00ebsis\u00eb?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Hapja jon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb trash\u00ebgimi e madhe dhe t\u00eb shumt\u00eb duhet t\u00eb jen\u00eb ata q\u00eb duhet t\u00eb marrin prej saj. Edhe ne jemi nj\u00eb vend an\u00ebtar i NATO -s, vet\u00ebm se kontributi ushtarak i Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i madh. Por, shum\u00eb besojn\u00eb se ne mund t\u00eb ndihmojm\u00eb ndryshe. NATO \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb bashk\u00ebsi vlerash. Ne thjesht nuk mund t\u00eb kthejm\u00eb shpin\u00ebn n\u00eb k\u00ebto momente. \u00cbsht\u00eb trondit\u00ebse se si ekstremi i djatht\u00eb po dikton sot debatin lidhur me emigrant\u00ebt n\u00eb shum\u00eb vende, ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht n\u00eb ato t\u00eb pasura.<\/span><\/p>\n

Spiegel: Deri n\u00eb vitin 2018 n\u00ebn qeverisjen tuaj, Shqip\u00ebria nuk ka pranuar t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtoj\u00eb qendra pritjeje t\u00eb refugjat\u00ebve p\u00ebr llogari t\u00eb Bashkimit Evropian. P\u00ebrse i keni th\u00ebn\u00eb \u201cjo\u201d k\u00ebsaj?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Ne nuk donim t\u00eb shnd\u00ebrroheshim n\u00eb nj\u00eb vend grumbullimi p\u00ebr refugjat\u00ebt e pad\u00ebshiruar nga BE-ja. P\u00ebrndryshe ne do t\u00eb duhej t\u00eb viheshim n\u00eb sh\u00ebrbim t\u00eb nj\u00eb politike antiemigracion t\u00eb vendeve v\u00ebrtet\u00eb t\u00eb pasura. Nuk e donim k\u00ebt\u00eb.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Shqip\u00ebria synon prej koh\u00ebsh q\u00eb t\u00eb an\u00ebtar\u00ebsohet n\u00eb BE, por pa sh\u00ebnuar progres n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb. A jeni t\u00eb zhg\u00ebnjyer?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Nuk jemi t\u00eb zhg\u00ebnjyer, por jemi b\u00ebr\u00eb m\u00eb realist\u00eb. Ne e kemi idealizuar BE-n\u00eb, ne vazhdojm\u00eb t\u00eb jemi nj\u00eb nd\u00ebr vendet m\u00eb pro europiane n\u00eb kontinent. Por, sot e dim\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb se si funksionon BE-ja. Ne m\u00ebsojm\u00eb nga Europa si t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtojm\u00eb nj\u00eb shtet transparent dhe demokratik. Europa zot\u00ebron dijen dhe na e siguron k\u00ebt\u00eb. Edhe kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb vler\u00eb n\u00eb vetvete. An\u00ebtar\u00ebsimi t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb kur t\u00eb ndodh\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb krejt e qart\u00eb p\u00ebr mua: ne ishim t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb hoq\u00ebm dor\u00eb nga idea e komunizmit dhe do t\u00eb jemi po t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb do t\u00eb heqim dor\u00eb nga ideja e Evrop\u00ebs. Dikush mund t\u00eb v\u00ebr\u00eb n\u00eb dyshim Vatikanin, por jo Zotin. Ideja e nj\u00eb Evrope t\u00eb bashkuar \u00ebsht\u00eb Zoti.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: Sot, mbi t\u00eb gjitha, ju jeni n\u00eb favor t\u00eb nj\u00eb afrimi m\u00eb t\u00eb madh me SHBA-n\u00eb. \u00c7far\u00eb lloji marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnieje do t\u00eb d\u00ebshironit t\u00eb kishit me SHBA-n\u00eb? At\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00eb partneriteti t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb, p\u00ebr shembull? Shum\u00eb vende t\u00eb tjera q\u00eb kan\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsi me BE-n\u00eb do t\u00eb kishin \u00ebnd\u00ebrruar p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Gjat\u00eb periudh\u00ebs s\u00eb komunizmit na thuhej q\u00eb SHBA ishte mish\u00ebrim i s\u00eb keqes. Por ne u b\u00ebm\u00eb adhurues t\u00eb Amerik\u00ebs. Shqiptar\u00ebt jan\u00eb sot m\u00eb pro-amerikan\u00eb se sa vet\u00eb teksan\u00ebt. Fatmir\u00ebsisht, s\u2019jemi t\u00eb detyruar t\u00eb zgjedhim mes SHBA-s\u00eb dhe BE-s\u00eb. Ne duam marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie t\u00eb mira me t\u00eb dy.<\/span><\/p>\n

SPIEGEL: A do t\u2019ju mungoj\u00eb Angela Merkel, e cila ka qen\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb e interesuar p\u00ebr Ballkanin? Presidenti francez, Emmanuel Macron, p\u00ebr shembull, madje i bllokoi bisedimet e an\u00ebtar\u00ebsimit me shtetet e Ballkanit.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Rama:<\/strong>\u00a0Emmanuel Macron \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb her\u00eb m\u00eb i ndersh\u00ebm sesa shum\u00eb politikan\u00eb t\u00eb tjer\u00eb, t\u00eb cil\u00ebt fshihen pas premtimesh t\u00eb bukura. Ishte Merkel ajo q\u00eb i shp\u00ebtoi nderin kontinentit n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb. Evropa do ta kishte humbur shk\u00eblqimin e moralit t\u00eb saj, n\u00ebse do t\u00eb na kishte mbyllur kufijt\u00eb. Merkel do t\u00eb na mungoj\u00eb s\u00eb tep\u00ebrmi, pasi ajo kishte nj\u00eb vizion p\u00ebr Ballkanin.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Kryeministri Edi Rama n\u00eb nj\u00eb intervist\u00eb p\u00ebr Der Spigel ka folur p\u00ebr strehimin e afgan\u00ebve dhe integrimin n\u00eb Bashkimit Evropian. Rama thot\u00eb se n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri do strehohen deri n\u00eb 4 mij\u00eb afgan\u00eb t\u00eb cil\u00ebt do presin marrjen e vizave p\u00ebr n\u00eb SHBA. Kryeministri duke folur p\u00ebr zgjerimin e BE-s\u00eb deklaroi se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb i zhg\u00ebnjyer […]<\/p>\n","protected":false,"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"rendered","format":"html"}]},"author":32,"featured_media":477144,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[65,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-477209","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lajme","category-te-fundit"],"gt_translate_keys":[{"key":"link","format":"url"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/477209","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/32"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=477209"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/477209\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/477144"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=477209"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=477209"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hashtag.al\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=477209"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}